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Quote: vastman "You have a crowd you will have some fools, it’s life.

It’s not pleasant and it’s wrong but so long as it’s relatively rare then we will have to live with it, a bit like Covid.

What I won’t do is pint fingers. I personally have had more issues with some clubs than others but that’s just my experience and probably doesn’t reflect the norm.

Also noticed your avatar - RIP the great Charlie Watts, I thought they were immortal, seems they are not.'"

Bet he could bang a tune out at a match Brings back great memories

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Quote: vastman "You have a crowd you will have some fools, it’s life.

It’s not pleasant and it’s wrong but so long as it’s relatively rare then we will have to live with it, a bit like Covid.

What I won’t do is pint fingers. I personally have had more issues with some clubs than others but that’s just my experience and probably doesn’t reflect the norm.

Also noticed your avatar - RIP the great Charlie Watts, I thought they were immortal, seems they are not.'"


Brian Jones dispelled that theory 52 years ago, vasty. RIP Charlie Watts

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Brian Jones dispelled that theory 52 years ago, vasty. RIP Charlie Watts'"


But no matter how long they go on it's still Jagger, Richards Jones, Watts and Whyman that remain The Stones. Ronnie Wood is never really more than a long standing session guy.

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Brian Jones dispelled that theory 52 years ago, vasty. RIP Charlie Watts'"


Sort of but because he died so young he’s become kind of immortal or at least forever young. As Keef says in his book, Jones was never destined to get old.

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Quote: Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo "But no matter how long they go on it's still Jagger, Richards Jones, Watts and Whyman that remain The Stones. Ronnie Wood is never really more than a long standing session guy.'"


Without doubt, but musically they were probably at their best with Mick Taylor.

Sorry non Stones fans, back to RL.

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There is really not much else to say about the Hull KR game so there's no harm in a little Stones divergence. Fun to read.

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Without doubt, but musically they were probably at their best with Mick Taylor.
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It may offend purists but I have to agree with you on that. It's a real shame that when you mention Mick Taylor (yet another John Mayall product) people say "Who?". The whole rhythm section backing was so tight and solid.

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Saw the Stones in 1965 at Leeds Odeon. Ticket for seats five rows from front cost 12/6 (62,5p): saw them at Old Trafford, Manchester on their last tour, ticket price £100. Inflation or what????? icon_biggrin.gifRUMMER: icon_guitarist.gif icon_guitarist.gif icon_guitarist.gif

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Quote: Redscat "Saw the Stones in 1965 at Leeds Odeon. Ticket for seats five rows from front cost 12/6 (62,5p): saw them at Old Trafford, Manchester on their last tour, ticket price £100. Inflation or what?????
Was 12/6 regarded as an expensive ticket in 65?
Average annual wage then was about £1,000

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Quote: sandcat20 "It may offend purists but I have to agree with you on that. It's a real shame that when you mention Mick Taylor (yet another John Mayall product) people say "Who?". The whole rhythm section backing was so tight and solid.'"


The Stones more than any other sixties band continually developed, something they get little credit for.

They started off as an R&B band.

Became a brilliant pop band, see Satisfaction and Get off my cloud.

Made a fairly decent stab at Flower power before seeing the light.

It wasn’t the Kinks who invented rock or the Stones but IMO the first genuine rock song to break out into the charts was Jumpin Jack flash, record company thought it was too rough to get in the charts, it was a number one.

The Stones were most definitely the first band to perfect the rock album, pre dating Zepplin by a good year. Beggars banquet, Let it bleed, Exile, Sticky fingers and the criminally understated Goats head soup, all mainly featuring Taylor’s brilliant lead.

Great talent was Taylor but almost as frail as Jones but at least he knew when to get out.

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Quote: PopTart "Was 12/6 regarded as an expensive ticket in 65?
Average annual wage then was about £1,000'"



The cost of a concert ticket has gone up far more than inflation,

However as someone who first saw bands in the late seventies you do get a lot more of a show.

1965, on average the Stones were on stage for about 35 mins, these days it’s 2 hours like most bands. Also you can hear them now and see them.

I’m sure Redcats factored that in icon_wink.gif

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No one makes money from record sales / streaming (apart from the label) which is why gigs are expensive these days. Its the only way they can make any money.

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Quote: charlie "No one makes money from record sales / streaming (apart from the label) which is why gigs are expensive these days. Its the only way they can make any money.'"


Stones and a few other premier bands do still make money on records but nowhere near what they once did. Playing live and merchandise are without doubt the big earners.

However in defence most band attempt to offer as much VFM as they can these days. As I say I remember gigs in the eighties where band that actually could play live did so as if it were a massive inconvenience.

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Quote: charlie "No one makes money from record sales / streaming (apart from the label) which is why gigs are expensive these days. Its the only way they can make any money.'"


I know they make more from stadium tours but record sales or streaming or radio play still makes money.
Depends on the contract of course but the song writer certainly makes royalty money.

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