On a point of pedantry - Kear wasn't sacked; his contract came to an end and he wasn't offered a new one.

JK got forced out by Mopsey i tell thee.

Thought it was the other way round?

Its not a dead horse, its what everybody with a bit of rugby league knowledge can plainly see what WTW needs. Its also what the coach himself acknowledges in most post match press conferences with no go forward, being easily rolled down the field and constantly losing the collision.

Using Aiton at prop speaks volumes of the lack of real options that R.A. seems to have at his disposal and the reason why there is a suggestion that we are now trying to buy a prop Jerome Gout from Toulouse (if its true and not a wind up).

In the short term maybe give a recalled Spiers a go (at prop from the bench) against Warrington and play players in their natural position for a change (yes I know that sounds a bit controversial ).

Show me a SL team that wins matches with a weak front row.

If the coach acknowledges a lack of go forward, why did he play Aiton at prop? Like that will help anything!

I completely agree it was madness putting Aiton at prop (?!) and it contradicts what he's been saying over the last month or so, ever since the week after the Catalan game.

Not totally correct.

But close.

If we have enough props, why are we having to play players out of position there and don't have enough on the bench either?
Surely if thats tactics then its time to get the effigy and the matches out of storage!!

In the context of what the club will do and what the fans want, almost everything is a dead horse by this assumption.
They have the money and grasp on what is achievable from a financial point of view, we just want to see a winning or at least enthusiastic/competitive side.
Our views are based on desire and pride and passion but these do not pay for players we cannot afford, and sadly we don't seem to have quite enough of them at the moment, and one thing is for certain, to turn our backs now will mean we wont have enough next year and the year after that...........
There does seem to be something of a puzzle going on at the minute and it does seem to focus around certain areas of our squad and the deployment thereof, so its definitely not a dead horse from the supporters (or many of them) point of view.
In reality as Vastman suggests it may be, but its not going to stop it from being re-examined week in week out as it is clearly an issue.

I would have to agree with Vasty, although I think we already have the basis of a really good pack; what we seem to be missing is a prop who is prepared to be a big 'orrible bully - all good packs have one and the effect they have on the players around them is palpable. A big hit, a line-busting run or a bit of biff lifts the rest of the team and inspires them to greater efforts.

We need our very own Mark O'Meley, David Ferriol or Fuifui Moimoi - that player could emerge from our current crop or more likely, will be bought in next season.

We have not got those type of forwards in our squad unfortunately.

I realise that it will have to wait until next season till we get at least one other genuine prop not converting second rows in desperation such as Southern. R.A. knew this was a weakness which is why he was going for Ewan Dowes in pre-season and said he was after getting some 'grunt up front'.

He doesn't seem to have confidence in our front row options either if he uses Aiton/Southern there - so you can have 5/6 props on paper but if the coach does not think they are up to scratch then its worthless and he'll look elsewhere which is what is happening.