FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Wakefield Trinity > IMG Announce Proposed Criteria for Super League 2025
321 posts in 22 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1253
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
46371.jpg
:46371.jpg



https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/ru ... e-27256425

Sorry, try this one. The link is about halfway down the page
https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/ru ... e-27256425

Sorry, try this one. The link is about halfway down the page


RankPostsTeam
International Star1080No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 201212 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: PopTart "That link doesn't work and I can't find anything on the site that's new.
So I remain to be convinced.'"


captaincaveman cut and pasted the relevant section above.

RankPostsTeam
Moderator20848
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
41119.jpg
A dog is not considered a good dog because he is a good barker. A man is not considered a good man because he is a good talker - Buddha:41119.jpg

Moderator


Quote: The Phantom Horseman "captaincaveman cut and pasted the relevant section above.'"


He does. But your statement that it is on the RFL website, seems to no longer be true. Which casts doubt.

I don't know either way, but as I said in my original post, JM told us it was being worked out in a different way, based on his meeting with IMG.
So to answer your question, I do believe him, but time has moved on since then and IMG may have changed the details.

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain820No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 20186 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Using a LA boundary is a lazy inaccurate way of recording catchment area. I presume Batley and Dewsbury are split with Huddersfield even though they’re closer to Wakefield than Fev and cas are. Would be different if part of the same City or Town but we are all separate towns and Cities so what’s the point of having it as a criteria. Anyway if that’s how it’s going to be scored then it is what it is. It’s up to us to keep improving and get our IMG score as high as possible. Hopefully takeover will help us improve.

Up the Trin

RankPostsTeam
International Star1080No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 201212 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: PopTart "He does. But your statement that it is on the RFL website, seems to no longer be true. Which casts doubt.

I don't know either way, but as I said in my original post, JM told us it was being worked out in a different way, based on his meeting with IMG.
So to answer your question, I do believe him, but time has moved on since then and IMG may have changed the details.'"


No, it's still there. There seems to be an issue that when you try to cut and paste the link, it changes the URL but if you google "rugbyleague.com uploads" it will come up as one of the first links.

In any case, as mentioned earlier, captaincaveman has cut and pasted the relevant parts. It's fairly well documented that some chairmen and CEOs didn't understand a lot of the implications of grading when the inital document was released and that's partly why I highlighted this specific point - it's of much bigger implication than many will grasp from such a long document.

To put it into context - if the 3-year on-field performance grading of Wakefield, Fev or Cas ended up being nine positions higher than that of Bradford (eg finishing 11th compared to 20th for Bradford), and all other gradings were equal (just for the sake of this argument), Bradford's score of 1.5 for catchment area compared to 0.5 for the three WF teams would see them ranked higher overall.

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain820No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 20186 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: The Phantom Horseman "No, it's still there. There seems to be an issue that when you try to cut and paste the link, it changes the URL but if you google "rugbyleague.com uploads" it will come up as one of the first links.

In any case, as mentioned earlier, captaincaveman has cut and pasted the relevant parts. It's fairly well documented that some chairmen and CEOs didn't understand a lot of the implications of grading when the inital document was released and that's partly why I highlighted this specific point - it's of much bigger implication than many will grasp from such a long document.

To put it into context - if the 3-year on-field performance grading of Wakefield, Fev or Cas ended up being nine positions higher than that of Bradford (eg finishing 11th compared to 20th for Bradford), and all other gradings were equal (just for the sake of this argument), Bradford's score of 1.5 for catchment area compared to 0.5 for the three WF teams would see them ranked higher overall.'"


It is what it is, it’s up to us to achieve all criteria best we can, I’m confident of us achieving a decent IMG score for top 12.

Up the Trin

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain2752
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 20196 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
77371_1547338507.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_77371.jpg





RankPostsTeam
Moderator20848
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
41119.jpg
A dog is not considered a good dog because he is a good barker. A man is not considered a good man because he is a good talker - Buddha:41119.jpg

Moderator


If that is in fact how they quantify it, then it is flawed.
Even if Wakefield and Cas weren't there Fev would not command a third of the area.
Plus, if we are saying the reach is challenged by another club, why not continue the reach where there is no club? Why can't we say we have a reach into Barnsley?

I don't think this is the end of the story. I think savvy chairmen will aim to get more points out of that.

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain3362
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 20159 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
74208_1661111029.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_74208.jpg



PT, never seen you so riled. Did you not previously realise that IMG is a group of shyster mercenaries? Of course the metrics are flawed but not for achieving the primary goals of the remit.

Back in the day, the big clubs introduced franchising (of course very unpopular and ultimately doomed). This time round a046.gif they've employed supposed pros to do it . The top clubs benefit but they divert the blame elsewhere. eusa_whistle.gif

RankPostsTeam
Moderator20848
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
41119.jpg
A dog is not considered a good dog because he is a good barker. A man is not considered a good man because he is a good talker - Buddha:41119.jpg

Moderator


Quote: Bent&Bongser "PT, never seen you so riled. Did you not previously realise that IMG is a group of shyster mercenaries? Of course the metrics are flawed but not for achieving the primary goals of the remit.

Back in the day, the big clubs introduced franchising (of course very unpopular and ultimately doomed). This time round
Lol. I'm not riled. Just disappointed we missed out on points I thought we were getting.
I'm OK with franchising. As long as the criteria is achievable and fair.

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain3362
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 20159 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
74208_1661111029.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_74208.jpg



Well recovered. icon_thumb.gif

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach13741
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
29100_1291104497.jpg
1/10:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_29100.jpg



New Wakefield Trinity YouTube channel;

https://m.youtube.com/@WakefieldTrinityRLFC

Now more then ever supporters need to subscribe and watch the video's. The club need to make engaging content to keep interest up. Rightly or wrongly this kind of stuff will now have a say on who makes up the top flight.

Just watched the Inside Trintiy video. Good start, hopefully it will grow in quality and entertainment.
New Wakefield Trinity YouTube channel;

https://m.youtube.com/@WakefieldTrinityRLFC

Now more then ever supporters need to subscribe and watch the video's. The club need to make engaging content to keep interest up. Rightly or wrongly this kind of stuff will now have a say on who makes up the top flight.

Just watched the Inside Trintiy video. Good start, hopefully it will grow in quality and entertainment.


RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4582
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
41301_1618663057.jpg
Wakefields roller coaster ride continues.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_41301.jpg



Quote: Khlav Kalash "New Wakefield Trinity YouTube channel;

Subscribed

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain2752
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 20196 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
77371_1547338507.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_77371.jpg



Some more information and a couple of tweets, could it really be possible for a 14 team SL happening?

Breaking News from the RFL.

RL Commercial will enter a 30-day exclusive negotiating period with Sky Sports to formalise the broadcast rights agreement.

It would appear the RFL have managed to increase the offer made from Sky from £17M to £20M+ a decrease on the current deal.

22nd August - for immediate release
Update on Broadcast Rights
Following a meeting of RL Commercial, IMG and Super League (Europe) Shareholders, RL Commercial will now enter a 30-day exclusive negotiating period with Sky Sports to formalise and
contract the broadcast rights agreement. This follows a period of activity in the market that saw multiple bids tabled for the rights, with all
stakeholders convinced Sky Sports are offering the best deal for the Super League competition. It would see the partnership with Sky Sports extend for a further three years, until the end of the 2026 season - which would include the 30th anniversary of the launch of Super League's
partnership with Sky Sports for the inaugural season in 1996. Under the proposed deal, the partnership would include the live broadcast of every Super League fixture, to the UK and worldwide - a transformative development for the competition. This would
also allow for video match officials to be appointed for every match.
There would also be the continuation of a free-to-air window.
Further details will be shared on the conclusion of the negotiating period.
Ends...

What is interesting from the meeting with clubs today is that the competition structure will change as the sport of Rugby League works around what the broadcasters want, not what the self serving Super League clubs want. It’s taken a further reduction to hammer home this message.
The top tier to expand to 14 clubs is what I’m hearing which would finally remove the awful loop fixtures. That gives Championship clubs like Bradford, Featherstone, Newcastle and York hope that they accumulate enough IMG points to make the 13th and 14th positions.

RankPostsTeam
Moderator20848
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
41119.jpg
A dog is not considered a good dog because he is a good barker. A man is not considered a good man because he is a good talker - Buddha:41119.jpg

Moderator


I doubt it but if they did I would imagine it would be after next season.

321 posts in 22 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing
321 posts in 22 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


2.2314453125:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
6m
Film game
Boss Hog
4047
7m
Fev H Play Off
bullinenemyl
16
8m
Play-off semi-final
WT_Midlander
18
22m
Betting 2024
karetaker
184
22m
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Play Off SF
FoxyRhino
3
35m
Squad for HKR
Wires71
21
39m
Rumours thread
Kettykat
2423
44m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Offy86
3316
Recent
Season tickets
Tony Fax
4
Recent
Travel to hull krdoes the club run coache
Fantastic Mr
65
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
50s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Offy86
3316
59s
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Hull KR Away Play Off Semi
Douglas Blac
9
1m
Best Semi
Wires71
10
1m
Squad for HKR
Wires71
21
1m
Rumours thread
Kettykat
2423
1m
Squad 2024
faxcar
735
1m
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Play Off SF
FoxyRhino
3
1m
Season 2024
tomtom84
58
1m
Season tickets
Tony Fax
4
2m
2025 membership/renewals
BP1
41
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Championship Awards
Butcher
1
TODAY
Season tickets
Tony Fax
4
TODAY
Best Semi
Wires71
10
TODAY
Ben Condon is a Leopard
Jack Gaskell
1
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
Deeeekos
6
TODAY
Any decent RL reads for me hols
norbellini
1
TODAY
Championship Play Off Final
PopTart
3
TODAY
Man of Steel
matt_wire
6
TODAY
Guest appearance
Kick and cha
1
TODAY
Squad for HKR
Wires71
21
TODAY
Proposed rule changes 2025
leeds owl
8
TODAY
Fev H Play Off
bullinenemyl
16
TODAY
Whose going for a beer in Wigan Saturday
Deeeekos
2
TODAY
Play-off semi-final
WT_Midlander
18
TODAY
Coach of the Year
Kevin Turvey
10
TODAY
Greatest game ever at HJ
Fantastic Mr
10
TODAY
World Club Challenge
Barstool Pre
1
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Hull KR Away Play Off Semi
Douglas Blac
9
TODAY
2025 Squad
Jimmythecuck
1
TODAY
2024 Season Review
Jimmythecuck
1
TODAY
McNamara interview
Jimmythecuck
1
TODAY
French Elite 1 season 2024/2025 Thread
Jimmythecuck
3
TODAY
5024
Butcher
7
TODAY
2025 membership/renewals
BP1
41
TODAY
Hull FC ladies
Hessle Roade
1
TODAY
Kai
Cokey
8
TODAY
Travel to hull krdoes the club run coache
Fantastic Mr
65
TODAY
Wakefield v Dons - Sunday 29 September 2024
Wanderer
4
TODAY
The play-offs
Ckt2487
11
TODAY
This years play off series
matt_wire
3
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
704
Leigh Leopards Make Play Off P..
746
Catalans Dragons Finish Sevent..
1182
Hull KR Secure Second With Vic..
1404
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trop..
1156
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
1578
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
1281
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
1506
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
1666
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
1926
Salford Close In On The Play O..
1625
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
1679
Leeds Rhinos Into the Six Afte..
1892
Wigan Warriors Defeat Hull KR ..
1699
Wane Names Provisional Squad f..
2141
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.63M 3,029 ↓-12180,12914,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 TODAY
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R29
20:00
Hull KR
v
Warrington
 TOMORROW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R29
17:30
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Sun 6th Oct
     National Rugby League 2024-R31
09:30
Melbourne
v
Penrith
       League One 2024-R26
15:00
Keighley
v
Hunslet
       Championship 2024-R29
15:00
Bradford
v
Featherstone
15:00
York
v
Widnes
     Womens Super League 2024-R16
16:30
York V
v
St.HelensW
 Sun 27th Oct
     Mens Internationals 2024-R2
14:30
England M
v
Samoa M
 Sat 2nd Nov
     Womens Internationals 2024-R2
12:00
ENGLAND W
v
WALES W
     Mens Internationals 2024-R3
14:30
England M
v
Samoa M
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Fri 4th Oct
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Warrington
Sat 5th Oct
SL
17:30
Wigan-Leigh
Sun 6th Oct
L1
15:00
Keighley-Hunslet
WSL2024
16:30
York V-St.HelensW
NRL
09:30
Melbourne-Penrith
Sun 27th Oct
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sun 29th Sep
L1 25 Rochdale26-46Hunslet
CH 28 Barrow24-26Widnes
CH 28 Bradford50-0Swinton
CH 28 Dewsbury28-8Sheffield
CH 28 Wakefield72-6Doncaster
CH 28 Whitehaven23-20Halifax
CH 28 York16-6Featherstone
Sat 28th Sep
CH 28 Toulouse64-16Batley
SL 28 Warrington23-22St.Helens
NRL 30 Penrith26-6Cronulla
Fri 27th Sep
SL 28 Salford6-14Leigh
NRL 30 Melbourne48-18Sydney
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 27 721 336 385 44
Warrington 28 761 341 420 42
Hull KR 27 719 327 392 42
Leigh 28 580 404 176 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 26 1010 262 748 50
Toulouse 25 744 368 376 35
Bradford 26 678 387 291 34
York 27 655 469 186 30
Widnes 26 551 475 76 29
Featherstone 26 622 500 122 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Swinton 27 474 670 -196 18
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
6m
Film game
Boss Hog
4047
7m
Fev H Play Off
bullinenemyl
16
8m
Play-off semi-final
WT_Midlander
18
22m
Betting 2024
karetaker
184
22m
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Play Off SF
FoxyRhino
3
35m
Squad for HKR
Wires71
21
39m
Rumours thread
Kettykat
2423
44m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Offy86
3316
Recent
Season tickets
Tony Fax
4
Recent
Travel to hull krdoes the club run coache
Fantastic Mr
65
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
50s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Offy86
3316
59s
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Hull KR Away Play Off Semi
Douglas Blac
9
1m
Best Semi
Wires71
10
1m
Squad for HKR
Wires71
21
1m
Rumours thread
Kettykat
2423
1m
Squad 2024
faxcar
735
1m
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Play Off SF
FoxyRhino
3
1m
Season 2024
tomtom84
58
1m
Season tickets
Tony Fax
4
2m
2025 membership/renewals
BP1
41
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Championship Awards
Butcher
1
TODAY
Season tickets
Tony Fax
4
TODAY
Best Semi
Wires71
10
TODAY
Ben Condon is a Leopard
Jack Gaskell
1
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
Deeeekos
6
TODAY
Any decent RL reads for me hols
norbellini
1
TODAY
Championship Play Off Final
PopTart
3
TODAY
Man of Steel
matt_wire
6
TODAY
Guest appearance
Kick and cha
1
TODAY
Squad for HKR
Wires71
21
TODAY
Proposed rule changes 2025
leeds owl
8
TODAY
Fev H Play Off
bullinenemyl
16
TODAY
Whose going for a beer in Wigan Saturday
Deeeekos
2
TODAY
Play-off semi-final
WT_Midlander
18
TODAY
Coach of the Year
Kevin Turvey
10
TODAY
Greatest game ever at HJ
Fantastic Mr
10
TODAY
World Club Challenge
Barstool Pre
1
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Hull KR Away Play Off Semi
Douglas Blac
9
TODAY
2025 Squad
Jimmythecuck
1
TODAY
2024 Season Review
Jimmythecuck
1
TODAY
McNamara interview
Jimmythecuck
1
TODAY
French Elite 1 season 2024/2025 Thread
Jimmythecuck
3
TODAY
5024
Butcher
7
TODAY
2025 membership/renewals
BP1
41
TODAY
Hull FC ladies
Hessle Roade
1
TODAY
Kai
Cokey
8
TODAY
Travel to hull krdoes the club run coache
Fantastic Mr
65
TODAY
Wakefield v Dons - Sunday 29 September 2024
Wanderer
4
TODAY
The play-offs
Ckt2487
11
TODAY
This years play off series
matt_wire
3
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
704
Leigh Leopards Make Play Off P..
746
Catalans Dragons Finish Sevent..
1182
Hull KR Secure Second With Vic..
1404
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trop..
1156
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
1578
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
1281
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
1506
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
1666
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
1926
Salford Close In On The Play O..
1625
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
1679
Leeds Rhinos Into the Six Afte..
1892
Wigan Warriors Defeat Hull KR ..
1699
Wane Names Provisional Squad f..
2141


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!