How have Widnes done it? Is it something they have in their club structure or simply down to O'Connor's money?

It was strong enough to compete against Widnes and on a level playing field, they beat you.

how have you come to the conclusion that it was just between us and Widnes, you werre involved in this too.

i have nothing against you as a club, the system is a joke

My read on this is that back in March, when it was announced that a club would be coming up, that right there was the contest and Widnes won it; keeping Fax in the mix after that was, in my view, a total cop-out - they never had a chance.

I agree with you by the way - the system is, to quote a poster from earlier, divisive and dysfunctional; for example, when they said a club would be coming up, they effectively said that one SL club would submit an application that failed to meet the SL criteria; how did they know that, given that at the time, they hadn't seen a single application?

The Shay is over 12,000.

9,000 capacity for the Bradford Cup game without the North Stand in use. The North stand holds 3,200 when it's open.

I will never criticise our Chairman for his comments, purely because he (and the club) have invested a large portion of their lives in putting together a strong submission and done all that the rfl asked, yet it turns out they have been led up the garden path by the rfl. Wakey pulled a rabbit out of the hat at the last minute (or was it a pie for dear old nigel?) plus Cru's implosion helped. Timing is everything and Glover is obviously a real sweet talker.

Enjoy your moment and allow Fax to grieve before you get all .......... with us. We have every right I would like to believe we would be equally as considerate if the decision had gone the other way.

grow up

I have to say, that the attitude of some Wakey fans who have spent the past year bellyaching about the injustices of life, are a tad hypocritical in their replies to the Fax fans. One thing is certain, nobody on these Boards has the slightest idea on the relative merits of each clubs application, but I suspect that it will all come out in the wash eventually.

Even Glover was gobsmacked at the decision, and that very shifty and evasive interview that Rimmer gave on Look North last night, simply adds fuel to the fire.

Gawd knows how you did it, but if I was a Wakey fan I'd definitly be doing the Lottery this week

Ia it really. No we didn't expect it but we always thought we deserved it so try not to get muddled old lad.

With respect, that's bullshine - even the most eccentric posters on this board have been restrained and dignified since the decision was announced; in the face of some rather silly comments from a very few Fax fans and their Chairman though, some people have bitten back - understandably and with justification.

I think you'll find that going forward, WTW fans will be less ready to accept the whipping boys of SL tag; our application was judged against the rest and we achieved the same C grade licence as many other clubs - we're now a SL club with no debt, a progressive owner, the best community dept in the game and in 18 months, we'll be playing out of a stadium that far surpasses those of all our West Yorkshire rivals. We're back - get used to it.

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In on merit.

You trying to justify it to yourselves?

The RFL will manipulate the system to justify their actions.

The truth of the matter is that you are in and you need to make the best if it. You need to fulfil the promises you made to get the licence.