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| Quote newgroundb4wakey="newgroundb4wakey"Who do you suggest? They will all have recruited squads to be competitive in Championship 1 and Toronto will have already made travel plans.
I actually agree with you but no one will want to step up.'"
Easier for one of them to sign a couple of extra players or even just risk it with their current squad. They would probably need to win 10 games to survive, New Bradford (who have no squad) would need to win at least 16 games out of 30 to survive.
They're being set up to fail
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| Quote newgroundb4wakey="newgroundb4wakey"RIP Jack Fulton. Do try and keep up, its not a great 1st post is it.'"
Jacks son is still writing cheques to help out the Tigers
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| Well, thanks to the snotty attitude of a few Bradford fans, all I can say is that I'm glad they've disappeared into the oblivion, it couldn't have happened to a more deserving club.
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| Quote vbfg="vbfg"I think part of the problem people have is acting like only they know suffering like the slaves suffered and trying to present fans of a club with a ton of attitude based on very little else. Like that time you were threatened with L1 for example ... how that actually panned out is you were advised to go into administration by the RFL, debts were wiped clean and you started again in the same league. When we went into administration your club was one of those that voted to take all the money away. Of course it was, because it was a club. And they all voted for it.
I think the bottom line is the fans of had enough of fans of other clubs using their complete lack of knowledge to bend it into a morality tale and deliver lectures to the fans, who had sod all to do with it.
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Nowhere have I wished for more suffering, just that I'm glad that your persistent failure of a club has disappeared. I genuinely hope that a phoenix club can be made to work, but it's being set up to fail. If you can't see that then you're a moron
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| Quote vbfg="vbfg"I think part of the problem people have is acting like only they know suffering like the slaves suffered and trying to present fans of a club with a ton of attitude based on very little else. Like that time you were threatened with L1 for example ... how that actually panned out is you were advised to go into administration by the RFL, debts were wiped clean and you started again in the same league. When we went into administration your club was one of those that voted to take all the money away. Of course it was, because it was a club. And they all voted for it.
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| For once I feel that the RL have got this one right but they are backed into a corner caused by their own ineptitude in previous stages of this saga.
The game cannot afford to lose any club be it York, Sheffield or Bradford and the focus of the RL board should be on securing the futures of all its member clubs, strengthening its base and moving forward together.
I would be willing to bet the The RL has sounded out some C1 clubs about taking Bradford's place and been turned down and the daft league structure and even dafter magic weekends mitigate against going forward with an 11 team division. Their choice will have been between making Bradford stay in the championship as whipping boys facing demotion the following year thus penalising he club twice or the sensible option of returning to 2 divisions of 14 clubs and scrapping the magic weekends. To me it's a no-brainer but as usual the RFL think very differently.
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| Quote vbfg="vbfg"Can I take the opportunity to point out that you;re a .......................
Ban me from your ............ forum. I know of only one of you that isn't a complete...............t.'"
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| Quote rlfan="rlfan"For once I feel that the RL have got this one right but they are backed into a corner caused by their own ineptitude in previous stages of this saga.
The game cannot afford to lose any club be it York, Sheffield or Bradford and the focus of the RL board should be on securing the futures of all its member clubs, strengthening its base and moving forward together.
I would be willing to bet the The RL has sounded out some C1 clubs about taking Bradford's place and been turned down and the daft league structure and even dafter magic weekends mitigate against going forward with an 11 team division. Their choice will have been between making Bradford stay in the championship as whipping boys facing demotion the following year thus penalising he club twice or the sensible option of returning to 2 divisions of 14 clubs and scrapping the magic weekends. To me it's a no-brainer but as usual the RFL think very differently.'"
Whitehaven have said that they weren't contacted about the possibility of returning to the championship, this is purely down to the RFL wanting to protect their own interests in Odsal, not about making sure Bradford has a strong team
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| Quote bentleberry="bentleberry"Whitehaven have said that they weren't contacted about the possibility of returning to the championship, this is purely down to the RFL wanting to protect their own interests in Odsal, not about making sure Bradford has a strong team'"
It certainly looks like they have acted to protect themselves.
It would be interesting to know what role they have played in this latest fiasco and why a new start, presumably playing at Odsal, is better than the proposal that was rejected by the Administrator and whether it was The RFL that rejected it.
There has been some "fluffy" reasoning given about the impracticalities of "promoting" a League 1 club at such short notice.
However, is that reason enough to break their own rules on clubs going into liquidation and if so, what happens to the next club that is unfortunate enough to fall from grace.
Having said that, starting at minus 12 points and with half a squad, it's going to be very difficult for New Bradford to stay in The Championship.
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| [list[/list:u Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"It certainly looks like they have acted to protect themselves.
It would be interesting to know what role they have played in this latest fiasco and why a new start, presumably playing at Odsal, is better than the proposal that was rejected by the Administrator and whether it was The RFL that rejected it.
There has been some "fluffy" reasoning given about the impracticalities of "promoting" a League 1 club at such short notice.
However, is that reason enough to break their own rules on clubs going into liquidation and if so, what happens to the next club that is unfortunate enough to fall from grace.
Having said that, starting at minus 12 points and with half a squad, it's going to be very difficult for New Bradford to stay in The Championship.'"
The new club is being set up to fail which is why I find it all a bit odd. Either way, I'm glad the Bulls have gone, arrogant fans who would all have loved it if we'd done what they've just done.
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| The RFL would do better to wash their hands of Odsal, cut their losses and sell the lease to the highest bidder to use as landfill or put houses on.
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| It seems that I might be on my own here, but I think the RFL have got it right, and that they often do.
The problem with our game is that there aren't enough Bradfords. In football, they could dump Arsenal to League 2 and it would make no difference to the game, as there are big clubs in the league below and further. Newcastle, Leeds, either Sheffield club, and the list goes on. In rugby league, there are only just enough big clubs to fill the top flight. Outside of the current 12, only really Bradford, Hull KR and possibly Halifax and Fev could offer prospects of 5K+ crowds most weekends. The RFL has got to be mindful of the wider interests of the game and look at each club on an individual basis.
From the outside looking in, when the RFL considers how to treat our repeated financial disasters, we have offered nothing to the Super League since we arrived apart from low crowds in poor surroundings that we have repeatedly promise to move from but have never been able to do so. In fact, we have achieved top flight status and retained it at times because of an assertion we would move, and yet we are still there.
When they look at Bradford, they will see a club that has offered a huge amount to the game, and were integral to the initial boost of super league, with huge crowds and an entertaining afternoon. All that has happened at Bradford is that they didn't bank the money back then, blew it on a futile court case, and have limped along ever since. It is in the wider interests of the game that they are assisted back to their feet.
It is exactly the same scenario as when a player gets into trouble with the law. Top player, key to the side? Club releases an apology and the player carries on playing. Squad player who has never lived up to his potential? Released by the club for bringing it into dispute.
In this case, what options do the RFL have? Dumping the club into league 1 is an option, and it could be said that the sanction imposed has delivered that, albeit in 2018 rather than 2017. But what about the effect on the other clubs? The other championship clubs may well have budgeted on a visit by Bulls fans and a trip there. It wouldn't make a huge difference, but we could be talking about a few grand, which could be a lot for a part-time club. Similarly, for the club who would replace them, it will be the top CH1 club, who are no doubt looking at building for the future, where a confidence-boosting season will attract recruitment for 2018 and interest and fans. How will being beaten very week in a league they haven't planned for and then being dumped down again help them?
Yes, it sticks in the craw that there is favouritism to other clubs, that I am not sure we would have been given the same degree of help. On the other hand, as a fan of rugby league, I don't want to see anything that is to the game's detriment, and it isn't in the best of shape right now.
The RFL are stuck between a rock and a hard place, and they have made their choice. What if League 1 was a no-no for a new buyer? What do the RFL do? Let a club like Bradford die just because it's fair to Wakey? No, their stewardship of the game demands them to help the Bulls. No rugby league club in Bradford? That could be a catastrophe as far as youth development is concerned.
In most cases, the RFL are faced with difficult decisions and I think in most cases, when viewed objectively, they get it right.
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