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| Good hunting IA!
But what the heck was Richard Kelly doing in the House of Commons library?
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| Perhaps it is time for an organised, well attended gathering of support, at the site with relevant media informed, thus enabling the more articulate to get our points accross.
Sharing a platform didn't get our side accross very well, perhaps some kind of walk from BV.
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| Quote: kinleycat "Perhaps it is time for an organised, well attended gathering of support, at the site with relevant media informed, thus enabling the more articulate to get our points accross.
Sharing a platform didn't get our side accross very well, perhaps some kind of walk from BV.'" yes we should, then lets make it Belle Vue every home game
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| Quote: snowie "yes we should, then lets make it Belle Vue every home game
No! I said well attended!!!
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| Quote: kinleycat "Perhaps it is time for an organised, well attended gathering of support, at the site with relevant media informed, thus enabling the more articulate to get our points accross.
Sharing a platform didn't get our side accross very well, perhaps some kind of walk from BV.'"
Once again, and without wishing to curb natural enthusiasm towards this issue, unless there is a specific goal to be achieved in such an event - which has to be far more than just making us feel better for doing something - then it is dangerous to try and run such an event.
We are now the ones with something to lose, and we consider that the best way to get through this is to lay low. Any amount of publicity runs the risk of further empowering the support for the scheme.
Our goal is to ensure that there is support within the right people, rather than just generally.
I'm just explaining why we are not doing more publicly than some expect - it's not because we don't consider other ideas or that we are avoiding our commitments, more a case of strategising!
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| Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "I have just been checking on Parliamentary protocol in respect of MP's from another constituency, involving him/herself in an issue or matter of a neighbouring constituency. I came across a very useful 'Standard Note' submitted to the House of Commons Library by Richard Kelly in January 2009.
I was basically hoping to catch new MP Alec Shelbrooke out a little in respect of his public and vocal involvement in Newmarket, which of course does fall outside his constituency... what I did found out was quite interesting!
It would seem that if Alec Shelbrooke MP has been approached by people living in his constituency, which I suspect he indeed has, then getting involved in this matter would be within excepted protocol and etiquette BUT he should have been keeping Ed Balls MP 'informed' of his intentions and any actions taken, speeches made, media interviews etc, on an issue not in his constituency but of concern to his constituents! I wonder if Ed got a note from Alec after his Radio Leeds interview or indeed any correspondence on this matter, as the etiquette urges he should have done/do?
However, this section in the note really made me smile, dedicated to the issue of planning matters.
I wonder if I should e-mail Alec a copy of this Standard Note!
I think you should
Don't know if you (or others) have heard Phil running rings round him in the Radio Leeds interview - and his NIMBY responses If not you can listen by going to Radio Leeds and then Listen again to the Andrew Edwards and Georgey Spanswick show and the Wednesday 26.05.2010 show
It starts about 1 hour 10 mins into the show ... think today is probably the last day for listening to it.
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| Quote: PHe "Good hunting IA!
But what the heck was Richard Kelly doing in the House of Commons library?
I was actually just killing time before a meeting with Gordon Brown, the library has a good section on Middle East politics which I was browsing through ahead of brokering a peace treaty with Israeli President Shimon Peres and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas!
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| Normal sort of day then, Clan.
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| Quote: The Clan "I was actually just killing time before a meeting with Gordon Brown, the library has a good section on Middle East politics which I was browsing through ahead of brokering a peace treaty with Israeli President Shimon Peres and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas!
Have you ever visited the planet earth Clan.
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| I've e-mailed council and wakey express to condemn the half-truths and downright lies and scaremongeriing of the NIMBYs. Council have replied, and seem keen to hold a neutral and balanced position (a good thing, IMO). Wakey Express asked for my address so they could consider it for publication - so maybe I'll get the NIMBYs knocking on my door!
Anybody seen a rugbyball around, or has it been kicked into touch?
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| Thanks for your e-mail regarding ‘Look North’ broadcast on 26 May.
I understand you feel the programme is overly Leeds centric, failing to adequately report news from across Yorkshire, such as the number of people who signed a petition in favour of the new stadium at Wakefield.
Choosing the content of our news bulletins is often a difficult and complicated process. In making their decisions our editors need to take several different factors into consideration including whether the news is breaking and the perceived level of public interest in the subject matter.
We appreciate that our audience hold a wide range of opinions, and this, coupled with the subjective nature of our editorial decisions means we'd never expect everyone to agree with every decision we take.
I’d like to take this opportunity to assure you that I’ve recorded your comments onto our audience log. This is an internal daily report of audience feedback which is circulated to many BBC staff including senior management, producers and channel controllers.
The audience logs are seen as important documents that can help shape decisions about future programming and content.
Thanks once again for taking the time to contact us.
Kind Regards
Ciaran McConnell
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| Quote: BIGAL1 "Thanks for your e-mail regarding ‘Look North’ broadcast on 26 May.
I understand you feel the programme is overly Leeds centric, failing to adequately report news from across Yorkshire, such as the number of people who signed a petition in favour of the new stadium at Wakefield.
Choosing the content of our news bulletins is often a difficult and complicated process. In making their decisions our editors need to take several different factors into consideration including whether the news is breaking and the perceived level of public interest in the subject matter.
We appreciate that our audience hold a wide range of opinions, and this, coupled with the subjective nature of our editorial decisions means we'd never expect everyone to agree with every decision we take.
I’d like to take this opportunity to assure you that I’ve recorded your comments onto our audience log. This is an internal daily report of audience feedback which is circulated to many BBC staff including senior management, producers and channel controllers.
The audience logs are seen as important documents that can help shape decisions about future programming and content.
Thanks once again for taking the time to contact us.
Kind Regards
Ciaran McConnell'"
That looks like a very standard reply and I guess does not address the specifics you raised in your email/letter.
What a surprise!!!
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| Quote: TRB "Once again, and without wishing to curb natural enthusiasm towards this issue, unless there is a specific goal to be achieved in such an event - which has to be far more than just making us feel better for doing something - then it is dangerous to try and run such an event.
We are now the ones with something to lose, and we consider that the best way to get through this is to lay low. Any amount of publicity runs the risk of further empowering the support for the scheme.
Our goal is to ensure that there is support within the right people, rather than just generally.
I'm just explaining why we are not doing more publicly than some expect - it's not because we don't consider other ideas or that we are avoiding our commitments, more a case of strategising!
TRB and I spoke on the phone yesterday and he brought me up to speed. We discussed things at length and I personally fully concur with his opinion above. We just now need to keep our heads down below the parapet a little now and work on a new objective, as TRB states, of talking to, influencing and gaining the support of the right people in the right places.
I have some homework I have agreed with TRB I will do, as does TRB himself, and then in the next few days we will be in a position to show you my homework and more than likely give give you some homework of your own, which I/we hope you will all undertake with enthusiastic gusto. The reason we are being cautious is not because anything we are doing is secret or we are wanting to withhold anything from your guys, but we do need to put our ducks in a row first before we publicly reveal what we know, what we have done and what we need everyone else to then do. I have become party to some very useful and quite juicy information which I am hopefully going to share with you all soon BUT I just need to verify a few facts first before then, I don't want to libel anyone/body but present pure unarguable facts that hopefully will further the case.
This is better than an Eastenders duf, duf moment (not that I have actually watched it for the last decade or so)!
PS. Sorry about the school homework analogy, best I could come up with!
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| The email response I recieved.
Thank you for your email. I'm sorry you didn't like our report; it certainly wasn't our intention to disappoint. But I can assure you we don't take sides in any story we cover; we always try to be impartial.
It's not the first time Look North has covered this story. We broadcast items about the proposed development in December 2009 and February 2010. On both occasions we reflected the boost it would give the local economy, the community and obviously the Wildcats and their supporters. This was the first time any objections to the plans have been mentioned by BBC Look North.
We did approach the developers, Yorkcourt Properties, for an interview. Unfortunately they were unable to provide someone. They did, however, provide information, which our reporter clearly included in her script when she said 'the developers claim it will boost the economy and bring more jobs to West Yorkshire... the idea is there will be more sports facilities for people in Wakefield and Wildcats fans believe the new stadium is vital'. Phil Townsend from Stadium Wakefield Action Group then provided a fans' perspective. We did omit some of what he had to say- just as we did with our other contributors; our report was only two minutes long and it really was impossible to justify any more time for the item on a day when there was such serious news in Bradford, for example..
We did, I accept, speak to a resident who objects to the plans; and also to an ecologist, who objects for different reasons. We also included the views of Leeds Council because their concerns are different, again. We did approach Wakefield Council for a comment, but as the planning authority, they felt it inappropriate at this stage.
Following our broadcast, the developers got in touch with us to say that, contrary to your view, they had no objections to what we broadcast. I'm also pleased to say we have a very good relationship with John Kear and his colleagues at the club. I sincerely hope that continues, and that the club and its supporters have a good end to the Superleague season.
Thank-you for taking the trouble to write; I do appreciate it.
Yours sincerely
Tim Smith
Editor, BBC Look North
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