Stop now both of you.

As I read this, fans are panicking because we are in a hole on the field once more.

There are two sides to Trinity: on the field and off the field.

Off the field is MC's arena. The club is in a better position than for years. We own the ground. We are financially stable (so everyone says). The ground is about to be redeveloped. MC and Mindards have done a sterling job and they should carry on.

On the field, not so good. The only criticism I can level at MC, if I really tried, was that he stuck with Chester for too long, but Chester's good couple of seasons probably gave him brownie points that bought him a season longer than perhaps should have been the case. As for Willie, we don't know if the club finances dictated his appointment, rather than advertising for someone with a greater pedigree. If it was finances, then that is just how it goes. It is hard to blame someone for on the field situations, however, when that is not his arena or forte.

As for attracting investors, there is no such thing in rugby league. Investors expect a return on the investment. Anyone who pumps money into a rugby league club does it as a hobby with money they don't mind losing. So, is it MC's fault no one is offering to waste millions of pounds? Unlikely to be a queue of people.

MC I've no issue with and I hope we don't lose him. I prefer stability over anything else. I just wish we hadn't made the same mistake as so previous years, appointing someone who is really just an assistant on the back of a sacking bounce.

A point that been laboured on here but it's clear, whoever 'invests' in the club will only ever be a wealthy fan. No business person in their right minds would 'invest'. There will be no return on that 'investment'. Carter has said many a time if anyone wants to buy the club for a notional figure they can. Guess what, there have been no takers. That says it all.

Do I think he's faultless, no, he's clearly good at what he does. Looks after the pennies and runs rhe club on a tight ship. He was an ideal owner when we were fire fighting. Sadly that only goes so far, I don't think he's the man who has the flair to take the club beyond perennial strugglers, but as with the point above, there isn't exactly a great big queue of 'White Knights' (cough, cough Eric France).

I'm not sure what 'put up or shut up' exactly means. He's not exactly saying he's either has the cash, or indeed if he did, has any inclination he wants to spend it on the club.

One of our old suitors, Steve Parkin, is about to sell Clipper Logistics for £1.3 Billion which he’ll add to his current estimated wealth of £500 Million. Alongside his other assets he’s set to be worth around £2 Billion by the end of the year or early 2023.
I wonder if anyones picked up the phone or typed him an email, just on the off chance

He was only interested when he thought he could get Guisley to Newmarket and only if we were in SL, and if he gets that amount and he wants to never see any of that money again I reckon Leeds Utd would be on his radar. Still you make a good point. He can only say no so nothing to lose.

Not true,
He promised to pay every penny of the Richardson/Pearman debt which was substantially over £3 Million
He also pledged to invest in the stadium and build a training facility that would rival a Premier League club
All he asked of the RFL was for a promise that they wouldn’t watch him spend his money and then remove Wakefields Super League licence. That’s not unreasonable given that if they relegated Wakefield he would have spent all that money for a Championship Club and taken him for a mug
Rugby League is not awash with people who have his level of wealth and for the RFL to refuse to offer any assurances and see him walk away from Wakefield and the sport was simply unbelievable.

Yes he wanted to move the Guisley 1st team into the stadium but I don’t think there was anything wrong with that at all.

I almost dare not imagine what the last 14 or 15 years could have looked like had Nigel Wood just said, off the record Steve we won’t relegate Wakefield.

You've pretty much confirmed my post, but with a lot more meat on the bone. So it's pretty much the same situation. We can't guarantee SL survival, would he be willing to 'invest' come 2023 and were are a championship club? Its certainly a question the chairman and CEO need to be asking.

The difference is in the nuance, you pretty much dismissed his interest as being all about Guisley with a bit of cynicism suggesting he wanted his hands on Newmarket. It was far far more serious than that and he really did want to buy Wakefield Trinity so much so that his lawyers spent around 2 months performing due diligence at the club at a cost of around £150k

Good for him, much better quality of life and a lot less stress.

Were we just customers a couple of years ago when most of us handed over hard earned money to the club? I would hopew MC values us more than that.

If you gave the club money, you are a customer who made a donation.
So you may be appreciated, and may be loyal, which means they should look after you, but still customers.

Which brings up another point. Can the club identify loyal customers as opposed to just passing customers.
Right now I think they'll only be able to do that through season tickets and memberships.

We are only customers not one of your best descriptions of a supporter who I believe are far more than that. If a business performed like we have over the last few seasons they would lose their customer base and go bust. A Wakefield supporter on the other hand pays their money despite get very little in return. We don’t at Wakefield ask much just a team that puts in the effort for the time they are on the field. We unlike sponsors do not get much for our money but without us the club is finished. We are starved of information from the current club unless they want us to step up and pay for some new merchandise. I wonder if we will be bringing out a new magic weekend shirt this year. I cannot remember any tweets apologising to the supporters who have invested money to go and watch the team underperform again.
I notice that Leeds are offering reduced admission for Friday giving members the opportunity to buy two additional tickets for £2.21 each, I guess it’s called marketing.

Scarlet Pimpernell Leeds can do it because of sugar daddys they are millions in det because of new stand most clubs would have gone bust .Same as Wigan ,Huddersfield .very unfair playing field

Yes but I believe we are still to start paying for the purchase of the ground, I may be wrong.