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Gutless performance and as has already been said I used to be hurt by these results, now its just
resignation. Sad really.

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Quote: asmadasa "Embarrassing.

Too small a squad in quality and quantity to compete in Super League consistently due to insufficient finances, regardless of who is the coach Webster or whoever.'"


That said and I don't disagree with you, how do you suggest the club rectify's the problem?

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Quote: chissitt "That said and I don't disagree with you, how do you suggest the club rectify's the problem?'"

They need to increase the number of supporters who attend a match, buy merchandise and generally can be relied upon to help to club sustain a SL side. How this is achieved with no money and a reluctance to spend on promoting the club I don't know.

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Think we might have to accept we are a championship club. Taking a gamble with a small squad hasn't paid off. I'm sure most of the clubs spending the cap are spending a fair but more as well. The Gap is massive. Having said that the players should be busting a gut. It's their livelihood and in the normal workplace a few would be on a final warning

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Quote: Khlav Kalash "They need to increase the number of supporters who attend a match, buy merchandise and generally can be relied upon to help to club sustain a SL side. How this is achieved with no money and a reluctance to spend on promoting the club I don't know.'"



Therein lies the problem, no money which you need to promote the club and get the missing fans' back and the sale of the merchandise what goes with it, better finances and a decent ground to attract better players' a top coach what cost top money, a better product on the field to attract the sponsors' if only it was that easy though, maybe we were always doomed to be one of the have nots.

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Quote: Khlav Kalash "They need to increase the number of supporters who attend a match, buy merchandise and generally can be relied upon to help to club sustain a SL side. How this is achieved with no money and a reluctance to spend on promoting the club I don't know.'"


Agree,but over the last couple of years they havent helped themselves,continually alienating the regular paying supporters.
Eg.From a personal perspective after 25 years getting a season ticket - i stopped due to kick off time being changed on a Sunday to 3pm.Only half hour,but half hour that impacted on if i could get to the game.Not only did they lose season ticket income,but bar money,programme money etc.
When i had season ticket i was "committed" to attend come rain come shine,now even if the kick off time is acceptable,i weigh up all the factors before attending - financial and emotional.

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Quote: normycat "Think we might have to accept we are a championship club. Taking a gamble with a small squad hasn't paid off. I'm sure most of the clubs spending the cap are spending a fair but more as well. The Gap is massive. Having said that the players should be busting a gut. It's their livelihood and in the normal workplace a few would be on a final warning'"


Why should we have to accept that we are a championship club! everybody and there dog tipped us to be bottom of the league so we are running true to form and haven't disappointed there, when we are back up to an acceptable level of injury free players and things don't improve then, and we lose in the middle eight which apart from the most optimistic among us thought we would finish up in anyway, and get relegated then we can finally accept we are a championship club, otherwise we might as well give up now.

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I never expected us to finish in the top eight. I didn't expect us to win many games but I did expect a fit team and I am not referring to injuries.After about 15 minutes the players looked like I would look after playing 15 minutes. But I am 60 and I haven't had a full off season supposedly getting fit. If anyone should go now it's the conditioner.

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Quote: ball-in-hand "I never expected us to finish in the top eight. I didn't expect us to win many games but I did expect a fit team and I am not referring to injuries.After about 15 minutes the players looked like I would look after playing 15 minutes. But I am 60 and I haven't had a full off season supposedly getting fit. If anyone should go now it's the conditioner.'"


Have to agree they never looked fit under clawson but he doesnt look fit either alsothis could be a reason for som many injuries

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Well, last night was very depressing.
We started the game looking enthusiastic and organised and probably should have scored fist but, a poor offload on halfway allowed Catalan to score
and we just imploded.
Heads dropped and all effort and desire disappeared. WHY ?

Add to that Simon going off injured and Scrutton looked to be playing with a knee injury and it was a pretty poor night all round, against the next worst defence in SL.

At the moment, it looks like we should save ourselves for the middle 8 and try and rescue SL survival, but with an injury list that is lengthening by the week, it's difficult to see where we can field a competitive team.

We do appear to be lacking any on field leadership.
Smith, Kirmond, Ali, & Scrutton etc should be rallying the troops and gaining a collective response when things are going against us but, we look broken in heart and mind.

Calculators at the ready for Monday, when Leeds will run riot.

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Like most people i left the ground early last night, called in at my local to drown my sorrows. The landlord showed me 2 complimentary tickets he had had for over a week for the Catalans game that he couldnt get rid of.

Said it all for me when people dont even want to go for free..........

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Quote: WF2 "Like most people i left the ground early last night, called in at my local to drown my sorrows. The landlord showed me 2 complimentary tickets he had had for over a week for the Catalans game that he couldnt get rid of.

Said it all for me when people dont even want to go for free..........'"

So the free tickets go on then....

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Quote: chissitt " better finances and a decent ground to attract better players' a top coach what cost top money, a better product on the field to attract the sponsors' .'"


You've just described Leigh Centurions

They deserve their shot, good luck to em!

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Michael Carter said right at the beginning of his tenure that we'd get the club that the level of support dictates!

We simply do not have enough people in the City of Wakefield who are prepared to spend their money and take the time to watch Wakefield Trinity or any other professional sport for that matter!

No pro football not even decent semi pro and those we do have get 250 on a good day
Wakefield RU are history now because they got no support and Trinity will go the same way eventually.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Well, last night was very depressing.
We started the game looking enthusiastic and organised and probably should have scored fist but, a poor offload on halfway allowed Catalan to score
and we just imploded.
Heads dropped and all effort and desire disappeared. WHY ?

Add to that Simon going off injured and Scrutton looked to be playing with a knee injury and it was a pretty poor night all round, against the next worst defence in SL.

At the moment, it looks like we should save ourselves for the middle 8 and try and rescue SL survival, but with an injury list that is lengthening by the week, it's difficult to see where we can field a competitive team.

We do appear to be lacking any on field leadership.
Smith, Kirmond, Ali, & Scrutton etc should be rallying the troops and gaining a collective response when things are going against us but, we look broken in heart and mind.

Calculators at the ready for Monday, when Leeds will run riot.'"


It's an attitude problem. I know we haven't got the quality the top four have got but on paper we don't have a bad side. But because we've got a few injuries as soon as a game doesn't go our way their heads drop and they buy into the 'woe is me' attitude and clearly stop even attempting to tackle properly.

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