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Has anybody who posts on here heard of Couldenhove Kalergi.
If you havn't, Google the
name and his plan, and read it, makes for very interesting reading,especially if you're into conspiracy theories.

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Have you heard of Donald Trump or Sean Hannity who are also both into conspiracy theories

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After a week of fawning around the worst elements of black society (no worse or bigger than white) the police have lost the streets. Two beaten randomly for entertainment by youth who now feel untoucheable!

The moment those idiotic coppers took the knee it was obvious to anyone with a brain that they would be on them soon enough.

Pandering to any part of society by the police can only lead to the destruction of law and order.

Finally where the hell is Boris, the most gutless PM to ever live. He has a huge mandate but hides away like a frightened boy as anarchy starts to reign..

I’m a true blue but if this man has any better qualities than Corbyn I’m yet to see them. He’s not fit to lick Mays boots and who’s have thought that.

Tragic, Attlee, Thatcher hell even Blair love or hate them there would have been some action by now.

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Quote: vastman "After a week of fawning around the worst elements of black society (no worse or bigger than white) the police have lost the streets. Two beaten randomly for entertainment by youth who now feel untoucheable!

The moment those idiotic coppers took the knee it was obvious to anyone with a brain that they would be on them soon enough.

Pandering to any part of society by the police can only lead to the destruction of law and order.

Finally where the hell is Boris, the most gutless PM to ever live. He has a huge mandate but hides away like a frightened boy as anarchy starts to reign..

I’m a true blue but if this man has any better qualities than Corbyn I’m yet to see them. He’s not fit to lick Mays boots and who’s have thought that.

Tragic, Attlee, Thatcher hell even Blair love or hate them there would have been some action by now.'"


Well, you're right about Boris
All of the clues were there before the General Election, lying, cheating, twisting and hiding.
He's a typical "Champagne Charlie", perfectly ok for the good times but, found severely wanting when things get tough and as others have already alluded to, the pain and fall out following the current covid crisis, will make the last 12 weeks seem like a holiday.
Spending and borrowing is already out of control and unemployment, while currently masked by the furlough scheme, will skyrocket.
Throw in massively reduced tax receipts into the exchequer and BOOM, the perfect storm and this bloke is not the man when there is a storm brewing.
Apart from over rehed sound bites, he's got nothing to offer.

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Im no bojo fan but could anyone actually defend his total lack of leadership. Your right wrencat all the signs of his bumbling were in view for all to see before the election. .
He had the perfect opportunity to lead the country and with the majority of voters well and truly behind him but hes blown it at the first hurdle.
Hel be ok at the end of all this but others will be thrown aside.

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Quote: vastman "After a week of fawning around the worst elements of black society (no worse or bigger than white) the police have lost the streets. Two beaten randomly for entertainment by youth who now feel untoucheable!

The moment those idiotic coppers took the knee it was obvious to anyone with a brain that they would be on them soon enough.

Pandering to any part of society by the police can only lead to the destruction of law and order.

Finally where the hell is Boris, the most gutless PM to ever live. He has a huge mandate but hides away like a frightened boy as anarchy starts to reign..

I’m a true blue but if this man has any better qualities than Corbyn I’m yet to see them. He’s not fit to lick Mays boots and who’s have thought that.

Tragic, Attlee, Thatcher hell even Blair love or hate them there would have been some action by now.'"

I’ve just been reading on BBC news (I know, sick bag ready) Baden - Powell Statue is to be removed from Poole Quay, for it’s own safety, on police advice. Honestly, you couldn’t make this up. What next? disband the whole cubs,scouts, brownies, (Not a racist remark) girl guides (not a sexist remark ) and all the other groups associated with this great organisation. I’m afraid it’s true, The Lunatics really have Taken over the Asylum. Decent society are now running scared from the Far Left, aided and abetted by gutless politicians and the national police force.

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Quote: Dunkirk Spirit "I’ve just been reading on BBC news (I know, sick bag ready) Baden - Powell Statue is to be removed from Poole Quay, for it’s own safety, on police advice. Honestly, you couldn’t make this up. What next? disband the whole cubs,scouts, brownies, (Not a racist remark) girl guides (not a sexist remark ) and all the other groups associated with this great organisation. I’m afraid it’s true, The Lunatics really have Taken over the Asylum. Decent society are now running scared from the Far Left, aided and abetted by gutless politicians and the national police force.'"


Chaos has certainly ensued.
With Baden Powell, the movement that he created is one of the most inclusive and longstanding of all youth activities and can only be applauded.
I've no idea of his politics and for the Scout movement, it actually doesn't matter.
Churchill, was the country's leader at the time of victory in the war but, his politics make Donald Trump look like a left wing radical.

Having said that, celebrating the slave trade and it's leaders seems obscene and where on earth do we go with the British Empire and Commonwealth ?

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The comments about the police should be directed at the leaders and justice system not the actual police.

For me it's the same as rugby refs against football refs.
I'm sure the football refs would rather take control but they'll lose their job if they start sending people off for backchat.
Rugby refs are backed to keep control (and that's starting to drift)

I'm no police state kinda guy but a stronger police force is needed. And that works both ways. They need to get rid of the likes that would kneel and a guys thought until he died or lie about decisions that killed football fans to protect themselves so the honest copper can do his job and be respected for it.

Equally, the police who come to visit me when I've been a victim of some sort should probably be different to the meat head you need on the front line in Vasty's tougher approach. That wide ranging resource needs funding.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Chaos has certainly ensued.
With Baden Powell, the movement that he created is one of the most inclusive and longstanding of all youth activities and can only be applauded.
I've no idea of his politics and for the Scout movement, it actually doesn't matter.
Churchill, was the country's leader at the time of victory in the war but, his politics make Donald Trump look like a left wing radical.

Having said that, celebrating the slave trade and it's leaders seems obscene and where on earth do we go with the British Empire and Commonwealth ?'"


One, Churchill's politics belonged to that era END OF, utterly stupid to equate them to now. Also if you knew your history you would know that if Churchill had a truly great quality it was the ability to be pragmatic and adapt.

There was nothing overly wrong with the British Empire when taken in context. Its legacy is far more positive than negative in my opinion. Nearly all the great non-Euro democracies are a direct consequence of Empire. The list of the world's democracies would be far smaller without it. Think on.

Finally, this 'slave' stuff is utter crap being peddled by people with an agenda. To follow the current logic, should we pull down the Pyramids? They were built by slaves! Of course not because the Liberal elite doesn't care about Egypt, they are far too busy loathing there own for now FREE nation.

Pathetic.

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Quote: PopTart "The comments about the police should be directed at the leaders and justice system not the actual police.

For me it's the same as rugby refs against football refs.
I'm sure the football refs would rather take control but they'll lose their job if they start sending people off for backchat.
Rugby refs are backed to keep control (and that's starting to drift)

I'm no police state kinda guy but a stronger police force is needed. And that works both ways. They need to get rid of the likes that would kneel and a guys thought until he died or lie about decisions that killed football fans to protect themselves so the honest copper can do his job and be respected for it.

Equally, the police who come to visit me when I've been a victim of some sort should probably be different to the meat head you need on the front line in Vasty's tougher approach. That wide ranging resource needs funding.'"

Horses for courses, springs to mind.

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Quote: Fishermanscap "One, Churchill's politics belonged to that era END OF, utterly stupid to equate them to now. Also if you knew your history you would know that if Churchill had a truly great quality it was the ability to be pragmatic and adapt.

There was nothing overly wrong with the British Empire when taken in context. Its legacy is far more positive than negative in my opinion. Nearly all the great non-Euro democracies are a direct consequence of Empire. The list of the world's democracies would be far smaller without it. Think on.

Finally, this 'slave' stuff is utter crap being peddled by people with an agenda. To follow the current logic, should we pull down the Pyramids? They were built by slaves! Of course not because the Liberal elite doesn't care about Egypt, they are far too busy loathing there own for now FREE nation.

Pathetic.'"


Oh no. How dare the British public want to fight racism in their own country? icon_rolleyes.gif

I think if you get more enraged about statues coming down rather than why they are coming down, that’s quite telling.

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Quote: Willzay "Oh no. How dare the British public want to fight racism in their own country? Tell me please Willzay, are today’s generation still responsible for the ‘Sins of our Father’s? You seem to hold a very big grudge against someone or something. Let it go, for your own sanity.

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No grudge here. I’m just curious as to why more people are bothered about statues than racism.

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I’ve also seen plenty of pictures from around the country of people standing in front of war memorials for “protection”. Guess what the common denominator is.

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