I would not waste your breath with RD, he will have some sort of source in his head that proves this is not the case. Even after Chester come out and said Dave will be with us with for the next 2 years minimum he still says there is something in the rumour that as far as I can see he was the one to mention it in the first place.

am I reading this correctly? You helped Warrington get around the cap by effectively renting out our cap space? That has to be close to letting Wolves cheat the system? Poor do if so. There would be uproar on here if someone did that and it hurt our league position.

The only problem I see with it is that Warrington have never repaid the favour

I was going to highlight a few choice bits of the above but realised I would highlight all of it

Are you aware that grix never actually played a game for us

How stupid are you?

Good grief....

I'll say it again...as I am wholly aware..YOU CANNOT REDUCE CAP BY MOVING A PLAYER OUT ON LOAN!
The cap still counts whether Grix moved, played or didn't...
As for de-registering I think it would only free up a quota spot not reduce cap either.

Grix was allowed to go (yes injured) for the same kind of reasons Crosby has...to hopefully find himself a new job as he is about to become redundant!!! Which he did and went on to be a fantastic signing for you.
Kind of like any good employer that would allow you to leave work to go for interviews whilst serving notice.

Sandow came to our club and his payment for half a dozen substandard games was differed until the season after...a loophole Wigan first exercised when they paid something like £450k?? for Fieldon and sent a cheated certain team around here down!!


Take the Wakey specs off and smell the custard. Wire are not your enemy...as for Wigan they cheated you good and proper.

When did Simon Grix become a fantastic signing for us?

a) a loaned player for the purposes of the cap is treated in exactly the same way a fully transfered player was, whereby the full cap value of said player is removed from the loaning clubs cap, and entirely onto the loanee clubs cap. A club at full cap cannot loan further players whom would normally be in the top 25 earners of the club. So capitalise it all you want, but yes, you can lower your cap costs by loaning players out. As I understand it, it’s actually most common for teams to do it if they have a big re-signing bonus to pay as that counts in year (so to continue your example, if you had agreed to re-sign Kevin Brown for 2019 with a signing on bonus of say 20k, that cap space has to be freed up on the 2018 cap ... by loaning out Dom Crosby). I’m sure I’ve explained these rules to you before.

b) Unlike the NRL, the SL rules are altogether ... fuzzier around deferred payments, backended contracts etc (unless the clubs get more information about it that’s not publicly available?) one of the first lines of the Salary Cap (for legal reasons) is that the cap value of a player in any given year is not related to WHAT they were paid or WHEN they were paid. It’s the latter capitalisation we are interested in when it comes to deferred payments, and implies it’s entirely at the RFLs discretion on whether a payment that is deferred into the next cap year actually lives there. This was, as you say brought into place following the “spirit of the cap” discussions. However that’s not to say that the flexibility isn’t good sometimes, like the RFL allowing Warrington to utilise the returning player rule for Charnley, even though he didn’t fit the 5 years out of the game criteria it normally requires.

c) are you confusing Simon Grix and Scott Grix?

d) I can only assume you don’t know who DaddyCool is...

Grix and Grix....possibly!

You are completely wrong about salary cap rules.

There was a hope that he would play 4 games in to the 8’s but had to be signed before the deadline. Turned out he was miles off.

Simon grix was an excellent player
However he never took the field in a first team game for wakefield

Fair doos. Makes you wonder if they knew that though and we were sold a pup. Good luck for today. Us supporters will be nervous, god know how you will be.

Rubber Duckie you are completely out of your depth here. Do you even know who Daddy Cool is? I wouldn't pick an argument with him on any of the RFL rules if I was you, he knows them better than any poster on RL Fans.

Also, why do you think we took Hadley on loan from Hull FC last season? If you do some research on it you'll see some reference to FC trying to stay within the salary cap.

Still no news on Hampshire. Hope we are not waiting for Drinkwater. He may be looking good behind that big aggressive Catalan pack but remember he wasn't anything special at Leigh when they went down .

Nope. Not taking him or Boney M on.
If I'm talking bollox.... no issue.
I'm in it for the banter.

Anyways 'come on Wakey'....they're my 2nd team.