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Totally agree Trinity 1315, it's called game management, it's something we need to improve on.

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There are far more important improvements to make than wittering about one instance of running the ball instead of taking the 2, especially in a game where in the end it made no difference.
I hope we are gonna run it every time the team feels they should, that involves lots of in game evaluation by the guys on the field and you have to trust them to do that.
Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, that's the nature of the game, its simple with hindsight and the comfort of an armchair or the stand to come out with the coulda woulda shoulda's after the fact.
I'm quite happy they took the right option to run it, they thought it was right at the time the decision needed to be made, and that's good enough for me.

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Quote: PopTart "I was there actually.
But that partly proved both out points.

They weren't capable of beating us with tries. We were the better team. They tackles and took their chances.
When we play Sts in the semi this year to get to Wembley I want to kick every chance.
When we play Oxford in the early rounds I'll be happy to run it.

I'm not disagreeing about Salford. If bite for kicking the goals. What I'm saying is that a confident team can often see a try opportunity and go for it. If back them if they did.....its a you call.'"

That would be a miracle if we did play Oxford! They no longer exist icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Upanunder "There are far more important improvements to make than wittering about one instance of running the ball instead of taking the 2, especially in a game where in the end it made no difference.
I hope we are gonna run it every time the team feels they should, that involves lots of in game evaluation by the guys on the field and you have to trust them to do that.
Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, that's the nature of the game, its simple with hindsight and the comfort of an armchair or the stand to come out with the coulda woulda shoulda's after the fact.
I'm quite happy they took the right option to run it, they thought it was right at the time the decision needed to be made, and that's good enough for me.'"


Having a discussion on the pros and cons of taking the two is hardly wittering on.

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Isn't there an additional hidden benefit in running the plays? If you did it twice, that's 10 or 12 extra tackles, and double that if you can force a drop-out with a good grubber. You might not get the two or four points, but you play a tired defence later in the game, who leave gaps. At that time, the Salford defence was being beaten. It only backfired because they managed to regroup.

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Anybody remember 2015????

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we got the 2 !! that is the main thing ...
fifta again almost cost us the game like he did against Warrington last year.
you are wining by 6 with 1 min to go!! why o why are you struggling to get up and play the ball quickly ! just get up and play it slowly so you don't make mistake- he has a target in his back now from the refs because he plays the ball like that everytime! I think he may of gave 6 pens away on Friday.
I was impressed with Pauli Pauli fitness he will be better as season goes on......will he be out you think though for a while with a broken nose?

2 points and 2 from 2 !! got to love it.

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miller mom for me

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Quote: BOJ042 "we got the 2 !! that is the main thing ...
fifta again almost cost us the game like he did against Warrington last year.
you are wining by 6 with 1 min to go!! why o why are you struggling to get up and play the ball quickly ! just get up and play it slowly so you don't make mistake- he has a target in his back now from the refs because he plays the ball like that everytime! I think he may of gave 6 pens away on Friday.
I was impressed with Pauli Pauli fitness he will be better as the season goes on......will he be out you think though for a while with a broken nose?

2 points and 2 from 2 !! got to love it.'"

5 in 2 games ftr. Yes, he does give pens but some are calculated others aren't. Also with the number of minutes we get out him in the middle, it's no surprise. Personally, I like the way Fifita gets up and plays the ball as he quick as he can, it's usually off a big carry and with at least 3 defenders on him, so getting up quick will leave holes in the opposition defense & it generally gets us on the front foot far more than not. Better players than him have been pulled for that ateotd.

Agree though on Pauli, he will get better and better as the season goes on and his fitness improves and he gets used to playing over here. As Wood said he came into pre-season the most unfit as he was still overcoming his leg injury and also arrived late. You can see what he's gonna bring when he's up to speed. He's already just behind Fifta on average gain at nearly 7.50 meters per carry. In warmer weather and another few games under his belt, I expect that to rise, along with his minutes and carries.

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Quote: Daddycool "Anybody remember 2015????'"

Yep, please don't remind us. We won the first 2 and that was practically it for the season.

I know we shouldn't get carried away but surely MC you're not saying that could happen again? icon_cry.gif

On a wider point grinding out those ugly wins when you're not at your best is just as important as putting 40 on a team and looking a million dollars ateotd.

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Quote: BOJ042 "fifta again almost cost us the game like he did against Warrington last year'"


That's a crazy statement - no other ref would have given that penalty; can hardly blame Big Dave for Mr Child's selective pedantry.

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Quote: Daddycool "Anybody remember 2015????'"


You sir are a killjoy icon_biggrin.gif
Cant we just enjoy the ride, i'll even put up with the nose bleed.

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My point exactly. Enjoy the ride. Instead of nit picking over errors, enjoy rocky’s Kick to milky. Or grix’s cover tackle!! We are never going to be perfect. But the focus is always on the bits that go wrong

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Quote: Daddycool "My point exactly. Enjoy the ride. Instead of nit picking over errors, enjoy rocky’s Kick to milky. Or grix’s cover tackle!! We are never going to be perfect. But the focus is always on the bits that go wrong'"


We need something to talk about!

My assessment of life is always that you judge your life on what your worries are. Personally, I'm enjoying the fact that the height of our debate is whether we should have won by more. icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Daddycool "My point exactly. Enjoy the ride. Instead of nit picking over errors, enjoy rocky’s Kick to milky. Or grix’s cover tackle!! We are never going to be perfect. But the focus is always on the bits that go wrong'"


I couldn't agree more; as I said straight after the game - Miller's try was a peach, and Grix probably saved the game with that ridiculous 'tackle' - and I use the word tackle in it's broadest possible sense, since what he really did was disregard his own physical wellbeing for the sake of saving a try. Not many FB's in SL would have pulled that off.

We're not the well oiled machine that this team has the capability to become yet - but having watched all the televised games thus far, I don't think any team is; players have had a long lay-off, and adjusting to the speed and intensity of week in/week out SL games takes some time - particularly in the crappy conditions that the opening few months serve up.

On that note, Saints look like they could be the real deal this season; I'd love to know what they feed Roby - he's like the Duracell bunny.

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