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Quote: Adam_Harrison9 "Would it not be useful to write to Mr Corbyn about this? I am well aware of the views some of our lovely forum members have on Mr Corbyn but before they all start going Daily Mail on me, hear me out.

Considering Corbyn's staunchly "loony" left political stance - meaning he generally gives a poop about the environment and is fairly anti-corporate benefits over community and the environment, do we not think he would be a little interested to know about what is happening under the Labour council of Wakefield? I'm sure this issue could be brought to his attention and I will be writing to him myself to bring this to his attention if possible. Labour led counselor screws taxpayer by letting developer build on green belt land without giving the community their promised community stadium. Could be a shout? Especially now the numpties in Labour who are part of this benevolent, self-serving shamozzle are getting reigned in by the left side of Labour.'"


Didn't someone once mention Private Eye do a section about dodgy LAs?

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Quote: musson "If only we had a conservative lead council maybe we wouldnt be in this mess

Labour shafted the country and are now trying to shaft trinity'"


How many times do I have to repeat it Musson old chap. WMDC DO NOT REPRESENT LABOUR IDEALS!!!
They are greedy, self interested opportunists who are interested only in how much expenses and salaries that they can extract out of thee and me !!!

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Quote: Schunter "Didn't someone once mention Private Eye do a section about dodgy LAs?'"


That was me, Schunter, on many occasions. They have a section in each issue that exposes dodgy councils and their scams. Strangely I don't recall ever seeing WMDC mentioned

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Quote: Redscat "That was me, Schunter, on many occasions. They have a section in each issue that exposes dodgy councils and their scams. Strangely I don't recall ever seeing WMDC mentioned'"



Surely this case is perfect because of the fact a lot of docs are there to be forensically examined and compared to the councils actions. I guess lawyers involved may put paid to it now

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Quote: Schunter "Surely this case is perfect because of the fact a lot of docs are there to be forensically examined and compared to the councils actions. I guess lawyers involved may put paid to it now'"


I seem to remember actually emailing Private Eye editorial staff some time ago suggesting they look into the situation as it was at the time, but nothing came of it.

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "I admire your blind faith and I hope the gamble because that is what it is comes off. To lose will financially destroy our great club because the costs and those of the council and 88M if involved will be astronomical especially when QC’s are involved.
The bit I don’t understand is on what grounds do we think we can win. We can state how badly we have been treated but the fact is the development was subject to certain conditions which have currently not been reached.
We have now due to recent statements virtually ensured if we leave without an agreement in place to return will quickly find the ground probably levelled and other use agreed. This means we will be homeless because we cannot stay at Dewsbury for more than one season.
Why would the council who we continue to berate allow us to share with Castleford.
We walked out of this deal I just hope we have a plan b if we lose.'"


It is better to fight and lose everything than merely lose everything because we didn't fight, because it's clear that we are on a fast-track to nowhere (or Toronto) if we sit back and wait.

As for your assessment of the grounds upon which we can win, that is why the club has engaged lawyers. They will advise. I'll trust their advice over the advice of anyone on here.

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Quote: Redscat "How many times do I have to repeat it Musson old chap. WMDC DO NOT REPRESENT LABOUR IDEALS!!!
They are greedy, self interested opportunists who are interested only in how much expenses and salaries that they can extract out of thee and me !!!'"



If this is true... and I don't doubt your word... then socialist and true Labour may be an ally in the forthcoming battle... are you in a position to mobilise them?

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Quote: Schunter "Didn't someone once mention Private Eye do a section about dodgy LAs?'"



The section in Private Eye is appropriately called "Rotten Boroughs"

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "I admire your blind faith and I hope the gamble because that is what it is comes off. To lose will financially destroy our great club because the costs and those of the council and 88M if involved will be astronomical especially when QC’s are involved.
The bit I don’t understand is on what grounds do we think we can win. We can state how badly we have been treated but the fact is the development was subject to certain conditions which have currently not been reached.
We have now due to recent statements virtually ensured if we leave without an agreement in place to return will quickly find the ground probably levelled and other use agreed. This means we will be homeless because we cannot stay at Dewsbury for more than one season.
Why would the council who we continue to berate allow us to share with Castleford.
We walked out of this deal I just hope we have a plan b if we lose.'"


Oh do shut up you boring agenda driven troll. It's been explained a dozen times already, mostly to YOU!

There is no option and you know it so why not do one Jimmy.

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Quote: Redscat "How many times do I have to repeat it Musson old chap. WMDC DO NOT REPRESENT LABOUR IDEALS!!!
They are greedy, self interested opportunists who are interested only in how much expenses and salaries that they can extract out of thee and me !!!'"


People assume I'm a conservative, if I am it's very much to the left.

However I agree, Peter Box is a career politician who only represents himself. Thatcher and Ben were ideologically motivated politicians - not sure as yet regarding Corbyn.

However compared to Box he's flipping Kennedy.

As for a Tory council give me strength. They are every bit as low grade as theirs Labour equivalents. Usually second rate businessmen and Masosons in it for gain.

No im afraid the Law which is supposedly blind is our only hope. If we get the right judge then they are like kryptonite to people like Box. Fingers crossed.

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Great to see support for the club on social media from fans of other clubs and the odd chairman. Last nights response from Denise Jeffery was shameful. I bet those at the top at not exactly 'welcoming' their opportunity in court. No response from my local councillor as of yet so i'm wondering if they are being Boxed in. The next council meeting is 22nd November at 2pm I wonder if Trinity will be on the agenda.

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Quote: wtid71 "Great to see support for the club on social media from fans of other clubs and the odd chairman. Last nights response from Denise Jeffery was shameful. I bet those at the top at not exactly 'welcoming' their opportunity in court. No response from my local councillor as of yet so i'm wondering if they are being Boxed in. The next council meeting is 22nd November at 2pm I wonder if Trinity will be on the agenda.'"


I got a reply from Councillor Janet Holmes which showed how interested she is.
Quote: wtid71 "I understand that an agreement has been reach. For further information could you please email
Wonder what agreement was reached yesterday afternoon that has not been shared publicly yet!! eusa_wall.gif eusa_wall.gif
Quote: wtid71 "Great to see support for the club on social media from fans of other clubs and the odd chairman. Last nights response from Denise Jeffery was shameful. I bet those at the top at not exactly 'welcoming' their opportunity in court. No response from my local councillor as of yet so i'm wondering if they are being Boxed in. The next council meeting is 22nd November at 2pm I wonder if Trinity will be on the agenda.'"


I got a reply from Councillor Janet Holmes which showed how interested she is.
Quote: wtid71 "I understand that an agreement has been reach. For further information could you please email
Wonder what agreement was reached yesterday afternoon that has not been shared publicly yet!! eusa_wall.gif eusa_wall.gif


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Quote: Fordy "I got a reply from Councillor Janet Holmes which showed how interested she is.
Wonder what agreement was reached yesterday afternoon that has not been shared publicly yet!! just another why of fobbing you off

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Having seen how nervous Box appeared at the Council Meeting earlier this year when the matter was discussed,it will be interesting to see how he reacts when being cross examined by a QC.Many years ago I appeared as a defence witness in a civil case and the way the defence QC challenged the opposition witnesses with his detailed knowledge of the issue was impressive.These guys earn big money but they earn it by the work they do prior to the court appearance and will have read and researched every statement and agreement relating to the case.If Box stands up and claims that minutes of meetings were not kept and he can't remember who gave any "legal advice" he will be torn to shreds.

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Quote: MC_Wildcat "Having seen how nervous Box appeared at the Council Meeting earlier this year when the matter was discussed,it will be interesting to see how he reacts when being cross examined by a QC.Many years ago I appeared as a defence witness in a civil case and the way the defence QC challenged the opposition witnesses with his detailed knowledge of the issue was impressive.These guys earn big money but they earn it by the work they do prior to the court appearance and will have read and researched every statement and agreement relating to the case.If Box stands up and claims that minutes of meetings were not kept and he can't remember who gave any "legal advice" he will be torn to shreds.'"



I too was in the public gallery at that meeting and yes in a court room he would be exposed. I think there is every possibility he would stand down rather than have to succumb to his fate in the courts.

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