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| Quote: bren2k "You seem to suggest that when a business is bought, the buyer does so with no expectation of at some point in the future being in a position to change material things that impact on the running of that business; which is clearly and patently not the case.
Michael Carter bought the business I would imagine, in the full and reasonable expectation that when a break clause came up, he would attempt to renegotiate the terms of the lease, which he considered to be above market value; he's attempted to do that, BoI have not responded, so he's enacted the break clause.
Which part of that is difficult to understand?
It all looks pretty straightforward to me - and I'd be disappointed if he hadn't done it; it's a crippling amount of money to pay for a dilapidated old shed of a stadium, on land that has significantly less commercial value than people might imagine; he's done absolutely the right thing and it doesn't look like brinksmanship or game-playing of any sort to me - just business.'"
I have made no such suggestion. You are tilting at windmills. Feel free to misrepresent any other posts that take your fancy.
The owner signed up to a deal that he 'hoped' would change in the future. BoI may not play ball and Wakefield fans may be travelling to Dewsbury (?) Leeds (?) etc to watch their club's home games. A great shame.
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| Quote: Wildthing "While I agree Capacity prob wouldn't be an issue (apart from when playing Leeds or Cas) I quite like the South Leeds stadium.'"
Just had a look, capacity is 3,450 but the running track means you are some distant from the players but it doesn't seem to bother the Hawks fans.
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| What is the capacity at Featherstone....surely that would be a more acceptable option ??
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| Quote: Cripesginger "I have made no such suggestion. You are tilting at windmills. Feel free to misrepresent any other posts that take your fancy.
The owner signed up to a deal that he 'hoped' would change in the future. BoI may not play ball and Wakefield fans may be travelling to Dewsbury (?) Leeds (?) etc to watch their club's home games. A great shame.'"
There is no misrepresentation - your basic premise is that Mr Carter bought the business with the lease included, so he should live with it forever and stop moaning; that's nonsense and you know it is. Any prudent buyer who makes a business acquisition will do so with a plan to rationalise the costs within that business - either to maximise profit or to improve viability; it's basic common sense.
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| Quote: Theboyem "Well i hope you are correct as the club moving out of Wakefield would kill it stone dead. But i have a feeling that bank will now actively pursue a sale rather than accept a lower rent and that will be that. Sad day.'"
If a developer has the money to throw around then it follows that the Trin will be leaving.
Down to the ££££££
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| Quote: FIL "What is the capacity at Featherstone....surely that would be a more acceptable option ??'"
Personally I would prefer Dewsbury, particularly if the North stand could be utilised to expand their capacity
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| Quote: newgroundb4wakey "I heard yesterday it would be the South Leeds Stadium but didn't give it much credence as I thought it would be too small.'"
If playing in Leeds is a possibility could it be at Headingley? Leeds often play Fridays whereas Wakey often play Sundays, Carnegie are set to play more games away from Headingley and Darth is always on the lookout for extra cash here and there. Plus I believe Wakey have occasionally used Leeds training facilities in the past? Only a thought.
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| Dewsbury as our base and for our home games as it's just about in Wakefield & take a few of the big games ie Leeds/Wigan to Elland rd or Oakwell until the Community Stadium is built in Wakefield
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| How about a rotation? Couple of games at Fev, Dewsbury, Leeds, Hunslet, Scarborough
Yep.. dumbest idea yet.
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| It will be interesting to see the outcome . Scaby could work for one game. Local derby type game. Make a weekend of it. The prospect of playing at a number of locations could work.
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| Quote: lampyboy "It will be interesting to see the outcome . Scaby could work for one game. Local derby type game. Make a weekend of it. The prospect of playing at a number f locations could work.'"
Disagree.
Most fans are creatures of habit and we need the same ground, on the same day, with the same kick off time (not withstanding Sky's requirements)
and if we move out of Wakefield, I can only be short term.
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| Quote: simcfc73b "How about a rotation? Couple of games at Fev, Dewsbury, Leeds, Hunslet, Scarborough
Some of the venues could be ok, but Scarborough!
Remember, Fev have taken the stand, the ground has been levelled & it sounds like the site will become a Lidl.
I still think Barnsley would be worth a punt.
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| Dewsbury a lot nearer for me than Newmarket.
You feel as though you haven't really left Wakefield on the journey there.
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| What would happen if the Council decided to list B.V as an Asset of Community Value?
Surely if they did, nobody else but the club would be interested in renting it, therefore they could haggle over the price. It’s not like the land value is going down anytime soon.
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| Dewsbury if we drop down a division, Barnsley if we don't. If the club are to move out of the city and remain in SL it may as well be to a place where potential new support could offset the guaranteed loss of the existing fan base.
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