Completely agree. Witnessed some dross over the years, but rarely have I left with 20 to go.
I'm not buying this injury line. That side was good enough, it was just lacking in ideas and enthusiasm. This is Rugby League, players play injured all the time!
It's been said we are missing forwards to lay the platform but I'm not having that either. I lost count of the number of sets we had in there 20 without doing jack! We couldn't force a repeat set. All in all p*** poor!

Mcshane and D Smith aside, the rest looked about as enthusiastic and happy to be there as me! Miller I don't get, Craig Hall needs to play centre or 6, T Smith needs to get back to organising them and Danny K needs to try and get back to somewhere near the form of 2 years ago, as for the last season and a bit he has been a shadow of the player he was.

Completely agree. Witnessed some dross over the years, but rarely have I left with 20 to go.
I'm not buying this injury line. That side was good enough, it was just lacking in ideas and enthusiasm. This is Rugby League, players play injured all the time!
It's been said we are missing forwards to lay the platform but I'm not having that either. I lost count of the number of sets we had in there 20 without doing jack! We couldn't force a repeat set. All in all p*** poor!

Mcshane and D Smith aside, the rest looked about as enthusiastic and happy to be there as me! Miller I don't get, Craig Hall needs to play centre or 6, T Smith needs to get back to organising them and Danny K needs to try and get back to somewhere near the form of 2 years ago, as for the last season and a bit he has been a shadow of the player he was.

Gutless performance and as has already been said I used to be hurt by these results, now its just
resignation. Sad really.

That said and I don't disagree with you, how do you suggest the club rectify's the problem?

They need to increase the number of supporters who attend a match, buy merchandise and generally can be relied upon to help to club sustain a SL side. How this is achieved with no money and a reluctance to spend on promoting the club I don't know.

Think we might have to accept we are a championship club. Taking a gamble with a small squad hasn't paid off. I'm sure most of the clubs spending the cap are spending a fair but more as well. The Gap is massive. Having said that the players should be busting a gut. It's their livelihood and in the normal workplace a few would be on a final warning

Therein lies the problem, no money which you need to promote the club and get the missing fans' back and the sale of the merchandise what goes with it, better finances and a decent ground to attract better players' a top coach what cost top money, a better product on the field to attract the sponsors' if only it was that easy though, maybe we were always doomed to be one of the have nots.

Agree,but over the last couple of years they havent helped themselves,continually alienating the regular paying supporters.
Eg.From a personal perspective after 25 years getting a season ticket - i stopped due to kick off time being changed on a Sunday to 3pm.Only half hour,but half hour that impacted on if i could get to the game.Not only did they lose season ticket income,but bar money,programme money etc.
When i had season ticket i was "committed" to attend come rain come shine,now even if the kick off time is acceptable,i weigh up all the factors before attending - financial and emotional.

Why should we have to accept that we are a championship club! everybody and there dog tipped us to be bottom of the league so we are running true to form and haven't disappointed there, when we are back up to an acceptable level of injury free players and things don't improve then, and we lose in the middle eight which apart from the most optimistic among us thought we would finish up in anyway, and get relegated then we can finally accept we are a championship club, otherwise we might as well give up now.

I never expected us to finish in the top eight. I didn't expect us to win many games but I did expect a fit team and I am not referring to injuries.After about 15 minutes the players looked like I would look after playing 15 minutes. But I am 60 and I haven't had a full off season supposedly getting fit. If anyone should go now it's the conditioner.

Have to agree they never looked fit under clawson but he doesnt look fit either alsothis could be a reason for som many injuries

Well, last night was very depressing.
We started the game looking enthusiastic and organised and probably should have scored fist but, a poor offload on halfway allowed Catalan to score
and we just imploded.
Heads dropped and all effort and desire disappeared. WHY ?

Add to that Simon going off injured and Scrutton looked to be playing with a knee injury and it was a pretty poor night all round, against the next worst defence in SL.

At the moment, it looks like we should save ourselves for the middle 8 and try and rescue SL survival, but with an injury list that is lengthening by the week, it's difficult to see where we can field a competitive team.

We do appear to be lacking any on field leadership.
Smith, Kirmond, Ali, & Scrutton etc should be rallying the troops and gaining a collective response when things are going against us but, we look broken in heart and mind.

Calculators at the ready for Monday, when Leeds will run riot.

Like most people i left the ground early last night, called in at my local to drown my sorrows. The landlord showed me 2 complimentary tickets he had had for over a week for the Catalans game that he couldnt get rid of.

Said it all for me when people dont even want to go for free..........

So the free tickets go on then....

You've just described Leigh Centurions

They deserve their shot, good luck to em!