The Shay Capacity 10,061 (5,830 seated)
BV after redevelopment 12,000

hasnt that what the last 3 years has been about, putting your money where your mouths are, have you done it???

we wont ever get back in your league till this franchise crap end's and with Crusaders netting one big fat own goal for the RFL today hopefull they will cut the crap and putting the teams who deserve to go up and not teams who are based only on location and nothing else.

and i must make this clear i have nothing against your club and i wish you every success in the next 3 years.

but you can see what he is saying,

but we won't though will we, Crusaders will come down get ready again and be prepelled back somewhere they can't survive, we wont get back in for at least 6 years FACT!!

And then at that point we will have maybe a scottish team or Cumbrian team being in the running and there is only one winner,

am not paying £15 to watch 20 freindlies anymore i just can't afford it. i'll stick to football cause this sport is just a joke

I can see what he's saying, but for mine, he's getting it wrong; your battle was with Widnes and that battle was lost several months ago - you were never going to have a better application than even the lowest scoring SL clubs, and so it transpired.

If he continues his bitter ranting after the dust has settled, he'll be doing himself, the club and its fans a serious disservice in my view - now is the time to take the hit, listen to the feedback and make sure that when Cas fail to deliver their stadium, Fax are ready to step into the breach.

Yes but our application is never going to be stronger is it, we dont get as much sky money,

we dont get Leeds, Bradford and other fans bring 2,000 fans to an away game.

our attendances will only go down becuase people cant afford to pay to watch 20 freindlies for the next 3 years, £15 a pop i beleive at the shay or something like that have a season ticket so dont pay much attention.

how can our application ever be strong enough to compete??

How have Widnes done it? Is it something they have in their club structure or simply down to O'Connor's money?

It was strong enough to compete against Widnes and on a level playing field, they beat you.

how have you come to the conclusion that it was just between us and Widnes, you werre involved in this too.

i have nothing against you as a club, the system is a joke

My read on this is that back in March, when it was announced that a club would be coming up, that right there was the contest and Widnes won it; keeping Fax in the mix after that was, in my view, a total cop-out - they never had a chance.

I agree with you by the way - the system is, to quote a poster from earlier, divisive and dysfunctional; for example, when they said a club would be coming up, they effectively said that one SL club would submit an application that failed to meet the SL criteria; how did they know that, given that at the time, they hadn't seen a single application?

The Shay is over 12,000.

9,000 capacity for the Bradford Cup game without the North Stand in use. The North stand holds 3,200 when it's open.

I will never criticise our Chairman for his comments, purely because he (and the club) have invested a large portion of their lives in putting together a strong submission and done all that the rfl asked, yet it turns out they have been led up the garden path by the rfl. Wakey pulled a rabbit out of the hat at the last minute (or was it a pie for dear old nigel?) plus Cru's implosion helped. Timing is everything and Glover is obviously a real sweet talker.

Enjoy your moment and allow Fax to grieve before you get all .......... with us. We have every right I would like to believe we would be equally as considerate if the decision had gone the other way.

grow up

I have to say, that the attitude of some Wakey fans who have spent the past year bellyaching about the injustices of life, are a tad hypocritical in their replies to the Fax fans. One thing is certain, nobody on these Boards has the slightest idea on the relative merits of each clubs application, but I suspect that it will all come out in the wash eventually.

Even Glover was gobsmacked at the decision, and that very shifty and evasive interview that Rimmer gave on Look North last night, simply adds fuel to the fire.

Gawd knows how you did it, but if I was a Wakey fan I'd definitly be doing the Lottery this week

With respect, that's bullshine - even the most eccentric posters on this board have been restrained and dignified since the decision was announced; in the face of some rather silly comments from a very few Fax fans and their Chairman though, some people have bitten back - understandably and with justification.

I think you'll find that going forward, WTW fans will be less ready to accept the whipping boys of SL tag; our application was judged against the rest and we achieved the same C grade licence as many other clubs - we're now a SL club with no debt, a progressive owner, the best community dept in the game and in 18 months, we'll be playing out of a stadium that far surpasses those of all our West Yorkshire rivals. We're back - get used to it.