To describe Welsby as the best FB in the world is just ridiculous. He should have took a contract down under to see if he could match it, like Dodd has. I can genuinely think of at least 8 FB’s in the NRL that are head and shoulders better than him. What lets Max down massively is his 1 on 1 defence. I genuinely think he has the attacking flair of a quality FB, but his defence at times is lacking for a top quality FB. Just my opinion of course.

That’s Jowitts only part of his game that lets him down slightly. However he does pull out the occasional try saver on the line too.

Every other part of his full back play is bob on.

Who other than Welsby in SL would you swap him with as a player elegible for England? None or hardly any for me.

His best years are ahead of him just like Tomkins, Wellens, Coote etc over here in the UK. A post further up mentions younger full backs in NRL but they have a lot of young talent in that position unlike the superleague where our fullbacks tend to show best form later on.

All I want is for him to be the best he can be for Trintiy. To be honest I couldn't care less whether he gets representative honours or not. He's playing against part time players so the enthusiasm needs to be curbed somewhat, he's not as good as Welsby who is also younger.

I don't get the logic of the players you mention. They were all stars when they were younger. They didn't get better when they were older they just played well and adapted their game when they were older.

But their full back play did get better as they got older imo. Their all round play was much improved as a full back especially in organising other players around them and becoming ball players rather than flair players. Take Tomkins, young lad who was good but mainly because of his step and ability to glide through the gaps rather than create space and opportunity for others. He naturally developed this over his career.

You don’t have to agree with me. I’m not precious at all but I think there could be a chance over the next few years.

Someone posted above about they care about his form for Trinity. That goes without saying and if he goes onto be a good club man I’ll be happy with that.

Max reminds me a lot of Richie Mathers. His one on one defence can sometimes let him down but when he joins the attacking line he's like a good third half-back.

As a whole we are struggling for quality fullbacks, Welsby as a whole is the best we have. There’s Thewlis at Wire that’s played there abit and Will Pryce at the knights (making debut this weekend). If Jowitt was to toss his hat in the ring it would be next year with hopefully the best quality side he’ll of ever been in. His defence doesn’t let him down slightly it’ll let him down massively at international level. For me the best fullback in the world is Dylan Edward’s, his defence is equally as good as his attack, he’s just quality.

I agree he's good, and I also agree he'll get better, I'm just not as confident as you that he'll be playing for England.

I agree, not convinced he'll near an England shirt, but have to agree with the POV - where are we seeing a better English full-back, as an alternative to the incumbent, than Jowitt?

And in answer to my own question - Wane, as Bennett did, will play any other favoured player out of position, rather than pick an outlier.

That was more my point. A lot f clubs have brought in overseas to fill the spot. An injury to Wellsby and who do we look at as an experienced number 1? It’s certainly a gap in the development of international players (as it is at halfback).

Evalds, Brierley, O'Brian will all be ahead of Jowitt.