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Quote: dboy "We don't have the ground capacity (or indeed the fans), to take our 3 year average to the next threshold, in one season.

On the flip side, our score can't go down either.'"


Indeed. Using the average attendances you posted we'd need an average this year of 13,629!!

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Quote: PopTart "I kinda don't mind Toulouse being competitive with us.
I know it sounds great to think we'll walk through the league but the crowds need a but if chance in the game to keep coming'"

Don't we just need to get 15 IMG points for an A grade and we are back in SL.
The one thing i think that needs changing on IMG scoring, is this catchment area thing. To me, why was it set at 130,000 ? have IMG explained why this particular figure, how did they arrive at 130,000 which gives the 3 WMDC clubs a huge disadvantage,and costs each club quite a lot in lost points. None of the other SL clubs i don't think are as affected as badly as we are. The population of our Metropolitan council area in January this year was,according to google figures 353,802,so with population growth currently averaging around 5% yearly, by the end of 2024 our population should be around 360,000. divide this by 3 and our clubs have a catchment area each of 120,000.
Wakefield CITY [not counting outer areas like Ossett etc.] population is 110,000 according to 2021 census,Castlefords around 45,000 and Featherstone 18,000,yet we all get equal points for catchment area, i.e all 3 clubs in WMDC are classed as a "Small catchment area"

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Quote: KevW60349 "Don't we just need to get 15 IMG points for an A grade and we are back in SL.
The one thing i think that needs changing on IMG scoring, is this catchment area thing. To me, why was it set at 130,000 ? have IMG explained why this particular figure, how did they arrive at 130,000 which gives the 3 WMDC clubs a huge disadvantage,and costs each club quite a lot in lost points. None of the other SL clubs i don't think are as affected as badly as we are. The population of our Metropolitan council area in January this year was,according to google figures 353,802,so with population growth currently averaging around 5% yearly, by the end of 2024 our population should be around 360,000. divide this by 3 and our clubs have a catchment area each of 120,000.
Wakefield CITY [not counting outer areas like Ossett etc.] population is 110,000 according to 2021 census,Castlefords around 45,000 and Featherstone 18,000,yet we all get equal points for catchment area, i.e all 3 clubs in WMDC are classed as a "Small catchment area"'"

Absolutely agree with that. At the last membership shareholders meeting, John Minards did say he was in communication with Tony Sutton at the RFL (think that’s his name) regarding this very matter. Unfortunately, John doesn’t appear to be connected with this matter now, and I don’t know if anyone else within the club has taken up this batton. I do hope someone has, if not, then Trinity and the other 2 clubs are disadvantaged as there is no way they can increase this IMG score simply because catchment area numbers are beyond the clubs control.

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We need enough IMG points to be in the top 12 to be in Super League.
15 points means we would be in SL no matter what others do.

The Community points around catchment area are based on the local authority District....from 2021! They won't change it before the first audit so we are just going to have to live with it.
No one is affected as much as the 3 'calder' teams but a few have 2 in the district.

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Quote: Dunkirk Spirit "Absolutely agree with that. At the last membership shareholders meeting, John Minards did say he was in communication with Tony Sutton at the RFL (think that’s his name) regarding this very matter. Unfortunately, John doesn’t appear to be connected with this matter now, and I don’t know if anyone else within the club has taken up this batton. I do hope someone has, if not, then Trinity and the other 2 clubs are disadvantaged as there is no way they can increase this IMG score simply because catchment area numbers are beyond the clubs control.'"


Maybe all three clubs could put out a joint statement asking fans, where possible, to have another child?

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Quote: imwakefieldtillidie "Maybe all three clubs could put out a joint statement asking fans, where possible, to have another child?'"

We need approx. 30,000 population increase to WMDC over the next 18 months, that should take us to around 390,000, divided by 3,equals 130,000 each club, Get bonking folks !!!!

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Quote: KevW60349 "111We need approx. 30,000 population increase to WMDC over the next 18 months, that should take us to around 390,000, divided by 3,equals 130,000 each club, Get bonking folks !!!!'"

If it's based on the 2021 census, you'll need a time machine too.

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Quote: PopTart "Just looking at the Bradford squad. They are no mugs either.
The top 5 I reckon are a pretty tough opposition.'"


I like the look of York this season. Blooded a lot of young players who went well last season and will be better for it this season.

We still need to pull in a handful of quality players to be challenging for finals with more certainty imho. The squad hasn’t nearly enough depth either.

We absolutely need a pack leader.

York, Bulls, Fev, Toulouse will be tough opposition next season.

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Quote: imwakefieldtillidie "Maybe all three clubs could put out a joint statement asking fans, where possible, to have another child?'"

I don’t think that would help, the full total population of WMDC. Would still be divided by 3 clubs in the area, that is what I referenced to, there is nothing the clubs can do to increase their catchment points, while ever this requirement stays as it is.

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Quote: Trojan Horse "I like the look of York this season. Blooded a lot of young players who went well last season and will be better for it this season.

We still need to pull in a handful of quality players to be challenging for finals with more certainty imho. The squad hasn’t nearly enough depth either.

We absolutely need a pack leader.

York, Bulls, Fev, Toulouse will be tough opposition next season.'"

It’s building up nicely into a cracker of a division, should be some right games to entertain us fans in the championship

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Quote: Trojan Horse "I like the look of York this season. Blooded a lot of young players who went well last season and will be better for it this season.

We still need to pull in a handful of quality players to be challenging for finals with more certainty imho. The squad hasn’t nearly enough depth either.

We absolutely need a pack leader.

York, Bulls, Fev, Toulouse will be tough opposition next season.'"

Its going to be an excellent League next season and you can certainly add several other teams to your list. This is good news, I don't want to see blow out scores, I want to see close matches, I want to see the league leadership change and the top 6 change on a weekly basis, I want to see the bottom four sides one or two wins away from a top 6 position. If the bookies were setting their odds today I think they would struggle to pick an odds on favourite for the title.

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Quote: bellycouldtackle "Its going to be an excellent League next season and you can certainly add several other teams to your list. This is good news, I don't want to see blow out scores, I want to see close matches, I want to see the league leadership change and the top 6 change on a weekly basis, I want to see the bottom four sides one or two wins away from a top 6 position. If the bookies were setting their odds today I think they would struggle to pick an odds on favourite for the title.'"


Nah. We are favourite.
I want it to be competitive but I'm happy to bet on us winning.

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Quote: PopTart "Nah. We are favourite.
I want it to be competitive but I'm happy to bet on us winning.'"

I don't think the squad as it stands would suggest so. York are looking tasty, Featherstone will be there again. Toulouse look ambitious and Bradford have recruited well.

One thing I will say about Toulouse, I don't feel they can up there score significantly more than what it is now, where Trinity can.

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Back to the IMG population figures. Huddersfield must be in the same boat as us. Kirklees has three teams Hudds, Dewsbury and Batley. I think the lucky West Yorks team to come out of all this farcical counting method is Halifax as they are the only team in the Calderdale District.

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Quote: Prince Buster "Back to the IMG population figures. Huddersfield must be in the same boat as us. Kirklees has three teams Hudds, Dewsbury and Batley. I think the lucky West Yorks team to come out of all this farcical counting method is Halifax as they are the only team in the Calderdale District.'"

Sorry PB,It doesn't affect those 3 teams,they get more points than our 3 teams in WMDC. The KIRKLEES population is over 400,000 so all 3 teams have over 130,000 [the IMG magic figure] each at least,Huddersfield, Dewsbury and Batley get more points than us, Cas and Fev Rovers

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