Correct I was not especially aiming it at you, it’s a general thing that happens at Trinity. Players only become truly appreciated when they leave.

I’m dreading the backlash on Miller as I reckon Cas have scored a real coup. They will ignore that MC stated his intent to keep him and his frustration at missing out. They will definitely ignore the fact that they all said how inconsistent he was blah blah. It will have to be someone’s fault.

Quite right.

I think the main problem with signing players over 30 is, it's seen as short termism. However, if we had 13 38 year olds and we got in the top 4 and won the cup then who cares if the next season they all retire and we are crap again?! What's the point of signing 'experience' in any position if we finish 10th all the time?! I'd rather watch an 18 year old and finish 10th than a has-been. It nearly worked with Finn, it just all clicked for 2 seasons along with the likes of England, BJB, Grix etc. It's gonna be very interesting over the coming weeks as regards signings......

Depends on the balance. In our case we are predominantly a young team. Relatively few players who are well into they’re thirties.

We have plenty of players in the early to mid 20’s group.

We have a SH whose exactly that. Do we need another similar to Lino or do we need an older more seasoned partner for him.. what Lino needs is a Finn not another Lino.

Like it or not you have to have older players, they act as the cement.

I think Mash will go with youth but don’t expect him to be totally biased. He will sign older players, possibly ones nearly as old as him! He knows that and he will do it.

He will also have to have an eye on the season after this as Lino’s contract is up after this season. Does he go for an established player for a year to play with lino and see how they go? Or Does he want to keep him or look for a whole new long term half back pairing?

Miller going is a big blow .I would place him in the top four stand-off in S L and number one in tackling .All ways gave100% .and if off form with the ball,is tackling made up for that .Going to be a hard to find some one on par .And hope the club are willing to spend some good cash to replace him ,and not go for a cheep option .Would go as far to say if we had kept him think we could have got through the season with what we got now

Not sure about that. But he’s easily the hardest to replace and the one that gave us continuity.

Arona is a hard act to follow but his kind of player are around.

As a player Dave can be replaced, he’s not the best overseas player we’ve ever had. As a bloke and a terrace icon there will never be another like the big bopper.

Batch and Aydin are blows but there is similar coming through.

But Milky is in pure RL terms the only really big loss.

Early on in the season Millers defence was lacking, remember that match winning tackle Murphy made against Wire? He really saved his captains bacon that day.

He turned it around though and the second part of the season came good.

Why he was so poor for large parts of the year who knows? He's always been a bit of an engima, not unlike Ben Jeffries. When hes on fire he is class, doesn't happen for a sustained period of time though.

I think it's the right time to move on for both parties, if he doesn't hit the ground running at Cas the support base will quickly turn on him.

Well we all see it differently but I’ve never seen Millers defensive game ever being off. He’s missed plenty but let’s be right so will Murphy through his career.

Miller is a slight man, he’s always at risk of being out muscled and sometimes is. The real question is why he was the one having to make at least some of those tackles because he makes way more tackles than some. I’ll go further Miller gets knocked off far less times than the man mountain Tanginoa does.

Millers best games were when our forwards were dominant, though I feel when we were being dominated or on the back foot he struggled to turn the momentum, though how many in SL can do that? For me, there’s so many different factors to how a 6/7 performs, with the starting point being how the players around them are performing, particularly the forwards. The Miller/ Lino combo for large parts were below par, as neither are the game controlling players, it’s not their faults, but we went with what we had.
To find a player who will control the game and be dominant, even when we’re under the pump will be difficult. I rated Miller, I thought his defence was strong and put himself about, he obviously had flaws in his game, but most who join us have. I feel we’ll have to drop on lucky to get the player we all want to replace Miller, as for every Jackson Hastings coming over from the NRL there’s a Josh Reynolds, Jack Cogger or Matt Frawley.

I’d never suggest that Miller had it all and I suppose that’s why we had him. Pound for pound though he is right up there in SL terms.

It will be interesting to see him at Cas, a team who’s style may suit him. I’ve always felt his biggest weakness was his decision making but with age that has improved. My fear is that he hasn’t peaked but is about to.

I’m in two minds, any other club and I’d wish him all the best but with Cas I’d be really happy if it doesn’t quite click.

Topliss what a player…. A true legend. Be great if we could sign a player of his calibre.