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| Quote vastman="vastman"Sadly you can't know that. As spook said he could have found Trinity a better club for him. Players tend to get over weight and out of shape due to injuries or being unhappy where they are.
All the same I'm now very happy with Whitbread so it's academic.'"
I watched his first game over here in particular because of the wakey connection and he was overweight and put a poor performance in ,and also the rest of the games he played . We simply can’t afford to have anymore overseas deadwood in our team , we have had our bellies full over the years of payday players over for a quick buck . I Stand by my statement in that we dodged an expensive bullet imo .
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| Quote Kettykat="Kettykat"I watched his first game over here in particular because of the wakey connection and he was overweight and put a poor performance in ,and also the rest of the games he played . We simply can’t afford to have anymore overseas deadwood in our team , we have had our bellies full over the years of payday players over for a quick buck . I Stand by my statement in that we dodged an expensive bullet imo .'"
Yes but what I'm trying to say is that just because he was 'deadwood' at Warrington as you put it doesn't mean he would have been for us.
Solomona was totally out of shape when he arrived and tbf so was Whitbread, he's only come good in the last month or so. You just can't judge players totally on how they have done at their previous club.
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| If you consider Miller who many at Hull were glad to see him leave but at Wakefield his improvement now makes him wanted by a former Hull coach.
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| Quote vastman="vastman"Yes but what I'm trying to say is that just because he was 'deadwood' at Warrington as you put it doesn't mean he would have been for us.
Solomona was totally out of shape when he arrived and tbf so was Whitbread, he's only come good in the last month or so. You just can't judge players totally on how they have done at their previous club.'"
I don't agree about Whitbread. He's had games like this before he was just over shadowed by others playing badly. He was a key player when we beat Warrington in games 1 and 2.
It just got trendy to bag him.
I remember posting his stats and doesn't make errors and does the hard work for others. Great signing in my opinion.
Solomona by his own admission needed to catch up but realistically, he could have been on crutches and still been the best player on the field.
In terms of Magoulias I agree I think he chose the wrong club. He needed a club that would let him have some freedom. They tried to make him into an average middle when he's a 13. Shame but we covered that loss now.
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| Quote vastman="vastman"Yes but what I'm trying to say is that just because he was 'deadwood' at Warrington as you put it doesn't mean he would have been for us.
Solomona was totally out of shape when he arrived and tbf so was Whitbread, he's only come good in the last month or so. You just can't judge players totally on how they have done at their previous club.'"
Didn’t mean anything disrespectful to Magoulias vastman , but I’ve seen far too many so called big names over the years turn up for us and turn out to be damp squibs ,and billy certainly didn’t stand out in a poor wires outfit from the games I’ve seen him in . Reading about his return home on compassionate ground it stated that his wife’s sister was having her first child , and they wanted to be close .Big ask for any player to drag his wife and kids half way round the world and then get dropped into a team in turmoil with zero confidence, think it may be a case of him dodging a bullet and not the wires on this one .
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| Played at 13 for Newtown Jets yesterday.
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| Quote TimmySmith="TimmySmith"Played at 13 for Newtown Jets yesterday.'"
The Sharks feeder club. Looks like he’s coming home.
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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"I don't agree about Whitbread. He's had games like this before he was just over shadowed by others playing badly. He was a key player when we beat Warrington in games 1 and 2.
It just got trendy to bag him.
I remember posting his stats and doesn't make errors and does the hard work for others. Great signing in my opinion.
Solomona by his own admission needed to catch up but realistically, he could have been on crutches and still been the best player on the field.
In terms of Magoulias I agree I think he chose the wrong club. He needed a club that would let him have some freedom. They tried to make him into an average middle when he's a 13. Shame but we covered that loss now.'"
I agree about Whitbread. Some are only just seeing it this past 3/4 games but for me he’s been a workhorse throughout. Every club needs a direct no nonesence player who can graft the yards and defend well with a low error rate. He has adapted well to the prop position. When the season started I had him at 13 but he’s really grown into the prop role.
Id extend his contract now if we haven’t already.
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| Quote Trojan Horse="Trojan Horse"I agree about Whitbread. Some are only just seeing it this past 3/4 games but for me he’s been a workhorse throughout. Every club needs a direct no nonesence player who can graft the yards and defend well with a low error rate. He has adapted well to the prop position. When the season started I had him at 13 but he’s really grown into the prop role.
Id extend his contract now if we haven’t already.'"
What do you mean some people didn’t see it?
We all saw he was a workhorse but we already had a dozen of those. We needed a bit more than that from an quota player. In the last few games he’s started to look like he might and I say might have more to offer. Let’s not get carried away.
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| Quote vastman="vastman"What do you mean some people didn’t see it?
We all saw he was a workhorse but we already had a dozen of those. We needed a bit more than that from an quota player. In the last few games he’s started to look like he might and I say might have more to offer. Let’s not get carried away.'"
Pretty sure I’ve seen some posts in the past where people haven’t been impressed with him that’s all. Me personally I think he’s been reasonably good and consistent throughout the whole season. I’m not getting carried away but I do think he would offer very good value moving forwards and I have seen enough to make me think he would be a good investment longer term.
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| Quote Trojan Horse="Trojan Horse"Pretty sure I’ve seen some posts in the past where people haven’t been impressed with him that’s all. Me personally I think he’s been reasonably good and consistent throughout the whole season. I’m not getting carried away but I do think he would offer very good value moving forwards and I have seen enough to make me think he would be a good investment longer term.'"
I think they argument has been what yet he offers enough as a quota player. Were he a British player we’d picked up from somewhere I’d call him a bargain. The truth is though that you should be expecting something really special from overseas players, something that isn’t available in a British player.
I don’t think we were getting that. I also don’t think we are there yet with Whitbread. What I will say is we are now heading in the right direction hopefully.
I’ve been willing to give him some leeway because he’s quite young and relatively inexperienced hence why I think he’s worth another year.
Not that what I say matters much.
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| Personally, I think Whitbread has gone well for us.
Further to Magoulas, and the Warrington exodus, I see also, that Mulhern has been released, think he could do a decent job for us. Still reasonably young, and British too, so no quota spot
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