I completely agree. I really hope they stay up but not at our expense.

Just looking at the first half of this game both teams seem head and shoulders above us in most departments , their running into the ball and tackling is something we can only dream about at the moment .Seriously need to pull our thumbs out and step up to the challenge because I’d hate it to be us or London for the drop at this moment in time

It’s odd isn’t it that our most lethargic performances have come against these teams. It’s like we can raise our game against top clubs yet fail to match these two clubs even remotely. It’s a lack of respect for ALL the opposition ie we think we are better than we are.

Hate to say it but after watching tonight im more worried than ever

Yup I don’t know that we have the graft at the moment. I used to get annoyed when people didn’t used to give us credit so I’m not going to do the same to London I’m full of admiration for them.

Abdull had the sort of game our two can only dream about.

To be fair Abdul is playing behind a better pack than our , more worrying for me is the passion and energy they played with , against our lethargic showing at Salford .How much is this down to players attitude, coaching or conditioning?

Thing is we haven't even raised our game against the top teams this year either, apart from Wire at home in the second half. But still can't ame away with 0 points.

People say Chester hasn't become a bad coach, but London are now 2 points behind after being adrift for most part of the season.

That was one of the best games televised games I've seen all season; and London, despite all the supposed shortcomings I listed in an earlier post, won based on team spirit, guts, determination and, crucially, a game plan - using Walker to terrorise their vertically challenged FB was a masterstroke.

I don't know what he feeds his forwards down there, but we should order a few crates.

Excellent win - thoroughly deserved.

Don't agree, against Saints at home we were excellent and Hull away but what I mean is in relative terms. The effort and ability shown in those games would have won us our home game against HKR and Leeds and probably the second London game but we simply didn't turn up for any of those games and its those games that get you top 5's and not heroic second halves against Warrington.

We seem to have lost the grunt and seige mentality we had a couple of years ago. Both London and Hull Kr have had to dig deep in the last couple of years whereas we have been in more of a comfort zone. Can our players change their mentality, I really hope so starting tonight. Making the journey tonight but I have to admit it’s only because my 7 year old grandson wants to go. Here’s hoping they look st east like they have been training together unlike last weeks shambles.

Saw Walker for the first time last night very good attacker but defence wise not so good let a few high balls bounce & tackling was suspect certainly no better than what we've got. taking into account that Hampshire will be going ( We don't know yet) Jowitt can fill that position if he carries on playing like he has been. Please don't start making this a Jowitt thread it was just an observation on last nights game