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| Although you're a Cas fan NGB4W, I've never had any grudge against you. You tend to usually put your points fairly and honestly. So happy new year to you and all others on this site!!!
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| Quote newgroundb4wakey="newgroundb4wakey"First of all why do so many threads turn to Cas v Wakey fests?
Think this probably deserves its own thread as there is so much to answer but I'll just say what i know about this mate as its nearing midnight and I have loads of ugly old women to kiss. AFAIK it was 3 clubs (Fev the other) but money was never promised. They were offered/gifted/loaned land to the value of £2million to borrow money against. The land for Cas was at the back of Cas baths (sports fields, so green belt) I don't know where yours or Fev's was but Cas declined the offer. No details were ever explained but what I did question was what would happen in default, ie, Cas borrow £2million against the land but don't pay it back. Who do the money lenders come after, Cas or WMDC. Or do they take the green belt land that was offered as security. I'll try and respond to some of the other stuff tomorrow as best I can.
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Your right it was in a form of land that the clubs could get loans up to a value of £2m. I think it's been brought up again because Box was on radio just over a week ago and obviously got a few questions chucked his way and he actually said that both us and Cas were given £2m, which makes it sound very different to the casual listener and makes it seem like they've gone above and beyond in all this. He also pointed fingers in other directions as to why Newmarket hasn't been built to original spec, namely the S of S at the time, which is some special kind of buck shifting. Also, don't remember anything about Fev getting any land to borrow against, could be wrong mind, because both our money was on the precursor that it went towards new grounds. Didn't your stadium plans at the time fall through at Glasshoughton not long after anyway?
There's a thread with a bit of discussion about what Box said on the radio here.
[urlhttp://viewtopic.php?f=33&t=620512[/url
As for your question, someone from the Trust may be able to answer, that's if they post anymore on here.
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| Box is waiting for Wakefield to get kicked out of SL for having a substandard ground, before he gives the rubber stamp go ahead for the Cas ground.
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| I'm a bit surprised nobody has picked up on the fact that Box and his esteemed colleagues recently lent £2m to Northamptonshire County Council, which he was confident "would be paid back" (reported in the Wakefield Express). A council which is due to be abolished in the next few months, because of financial mismanagement and be restructured as 2 or 3 smaller districts. If I was a Wakefield taxpayer I would be pretty annoyed at this. He seems happy to throw money at a heavily debt ridden Council but not do anything for the people of the Wakefield District.
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| Quote trinfan71="trinfan71"I'm a bit surprised nobody has picked up on the fact that Box and his esteemed colleagues recently lent £2m to Northamptonshire County Council, which he was confident "would be paid back" (reported in the Wakefield Express). A council which is due to be abolished in the next few months, because of financial mismanagement and be restructured as 2 or 3 smaller districts. If I was a Wakefield taxpayer I would be pretty annoyed at this. He seems happy to throw money at a heavily debt ridden Council but not do anything for the people of the Wakefield District.'"
Completely forgot about this. First I heard of it was on the way to work on Ridings FM about a month or so ago - to say I was stunned would be an understatement.
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| Quote trinfan71="trinfan71"I'm a bit surprised nobody has picked up on the fact that Box and his esteemed colleagues recently lent £2m to Northamptonshire County Council, which he was confident "would be paid back" (reported in the Wakefield Express). A council which is due to be abolished in the next few months, because of financial mismanagement and be restructured as 2 or 3 smaller districts. If I was a Wakefield taxpayer I would be pretty annoyed at this. He seems happy to throw money at a heavily debt ridden Council but not do anything for the people of the Wakefield District.'"
It was a council to council loan nothing out of the ordinary here just like when Iceland got into trouble lots of Authorities had loans in jeapordy.
Nothing in the Northampton matter.
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| The fact that MC hasn’t threatened to go to the high court suggests that (meaningful) talks must be ongoing. The reassuring fact from our point of view is that MC won’t allow these talks to be drawn out indefinitely. The clock must surely have very nearly run out.
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| Quote REDWHITEANDBLUE="REDWHITEANDBLUE"It was a council to council loan nothing out of the ordinary here just like when Iceland got into trouble lots of Authorities had loans in jeapordy.
Nothing in the Northampton matter.'"
One of the major differences between the usual council to council loan and this one, is the receiving council is not usually in the process of being abolished. I would think that makes a huge difference.
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Quote trinfan71="trinfan71"One of the major differences between the usual council to council loan and this one, is the receiving council is not usually in the process of being abolished. I would think that makes a huge difference.'"
When was the loan v the difficulties of Northampton, I still do not see an issue, organisations that are skint borrow money somd go belly up and leave others high and dry thsts the risks and business life.
Nothing in this
https://www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news ... -1-9471608
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When was the loan v the difficulties of Northampton, I still do not see an issue, organisations that are skint borrow money somd go belly up and leave others high and dry thsts the risks and business life.
Nothing in this
https://www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news ... -1-9471608
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| I held off from posting this as I was sure some one else would as it seems to be good news. In last weeks League Express Martyn Sadler's column carried the headline "Good news for Wakefield". In it he said "The really good news will hopefully come out in the new year. I'm told there have been some productive talks about the potential redeveloped stadium at Belle Vue
And although there is still some work to do, the prospects now look more promising than they have done for some time.
At the moment I can't say any more than that."
It then gets a little confusing as he starts talking about a new stadium rather than a re-developed one.
"But if we do finally get the go ahead on a new stadium for Wakefield at some point in the New Year, it will surely qualify as one of the most significant moments of 2019".
What puzzles me is that if Martyn Sadler knows then surely the trust or some one at the club would know and would want to share the good news.
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| Quote newgroundb4wakey="newgroundb4wakey"I held off from posting this as I was sure some one else would as it seems to be good news. In last weeks League Express Martyn Sadler's column carried the headline "Good news for Wakefield". In it he said "The really good news will hopefully come out in the new year. I'm told there have been some productive talks about the potential redeveloped stadium at Belle Vue
And although there is still some work to do, the prospects now look more promising than they have done for some time.
At the moment I can't say any more than that."
It then gets a little confusing as he starts talking about a new stadium rather than a re-developed one.
"But if we do finally get the go ahead on a new stadium for Wakefield at some point in the New Year, it will surely qualify as one of the most significant moments of 2019".
What puzzles me is that if Martyn Sadler knows then surely the trust or some one at the club would know and would want to share the good news.'"
The club or trust probably want to wait until everything is signed off of before announcing anything, nothing puzzling about it especially with all the false dawns over the years. Hopefully finally positive stadium news.
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