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| Quote Trinity18="Trinity18"You like your stats Poptart, what do you make of this?
Makinson has been playing on the wing for Saints and has scored 6 tries with 7 assists, Tommy has scored 11 tries with 0 try assists. Who's the inform winger?
Other England selections - Ryan Hall 8 tries with 1 assist and Jermaine McGillvary 4 tries with 0 assists.
Personally I would be taking the guys who's bagging meat pies week in week out.'"
So stats wise, Makinson has been involved with 13 tries, TJ has been involved with 11, who has the best stats there?
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| Quote JINJER="JINJER"So stats wise, Makinson has been involved with 13 tries, TJ has been involved with 11, who has the best stats there?'"
Definition of a rugby league winger...
"They are generally among the fastest players in a team, with the speed to exploit space that is created for them and finish an attacking move."
Who's finished the most tries?
If Makinson is going to be played at Centre then whey do we take Hall and McGillvary who even together have only scored 1 more try than Johnstone?
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| Macgillivray I think purely on his last Seasons form. He’s been quiet all year I think and not broke many pots. Hall is one of those big game players in my opinion that can raise his game for an England performance. Eventually though the younger next generation wingers Johnstone, charnley amongst them will get the chance soon enough. I think TJ and charnley would have been the better option to see how they perform on a big stage and see if they’re capable of raising their game for the international scene. But I’ve a feeling bennet is all about results to justify his position than building a future England team.
Players like charnley and Johnstone their time will come eventually. They just need to keep putting their hands up with good performances.
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| Quote Trinity18="Trinity18"Definition of a rugby league winger...
"They are generally among the fastest players in a team, with the speed to exploit space that is created for them and finish an attacking move."
Who's finished the most tries?
If Makinson is going to be played at Centre then whey do we take Hall and McGillvary who even together have only scored 1 more try than Johnstone?'"
Speed or not Makinson has been involved with 13 tries and TJ 11. Carney at Cas was sensational, not the fastest by any stretch of the imagination, different wingers have different attributes.
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| TJ is till trying to find his form, I honestly don't think he's done enough this season, so far, to deserve a call up. I am in no doubt that he will eventually.
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| Quote NEwildcat="NEwildcat"TJ is till trying to find his form, I honestly don't think he's done enough this season, so far, to deserve a call up. I am in no doubt that he will eventually.'"
At the end of the day he is only about 6 months from returning from a big injury. He is progressing well and there’s definitely more to come from Johnstone. I’m expecting as the season goes on we will see him hit some good form. That’s not to say he’s been out of form as he’s been good and done his job well season to date. Class is permenant and he has it as we’ve all seen it.
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| Quote Trojan Horse="Trojan Horse"At the end of the day he is only about 6 months from returning from a big injury. He is progressing well and there’s definitely more to come from Johnstone. I’m expecting as the season goes on we will see him hit some good form. That’s not to say he’s been out of form as he’s been good and done his job well season to date. Class is permenant and he has it as we’ve all seen it.'"
He's come back into the team after a shocking injury for a sportsman and he's done surprisingly well. I think we'll see the best of TJ next season myself.
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| The best thing we can do to help TJ is get him to some big games on tv in the 8s that will allow him to show his skills.
Everyone knew that Richardson was a good player but people take notice when he drops a goal to win a big game because it shows his ability to handle pressure and expectation that playing for England requires.
I think that is one of the things that has kept Percival out as he has been brilliant but made some poor decisions in big games.
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| Quote Trojan Horse="Trojan Horse"Macgillivray I think purely on his last Seasons form. He’s been quiet all year I think and not broke many pots. Hall is one of those big game players in my opinion that can raise his game for an England performance. Eventually though the younger next generation wingers Johnstone, charnley amongst them will get the chance soon enough. I think TJ and charnley would have been the better option to see how they perform on a big stage and see if they’re capable of raising their game for the international scene. But I’ve a feeling bennet is all about results to justify his position than building a future England team.
Players like charnley and Johnstone their time will come eventually. They just need to keep putting their hands up with good performances.'"
I agree that Charnley and Johnstone would be better than Hall & McGilvray. About 90% of Hall's tries seem to be finishes within the last 10metres. How often do you see long range tries from him. He's not the speediest of wingers. McGilvray "came of age " in the World Cup and didn't seem to be quite as effective up to his absence
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| As per the title of this thread, I don't think you'll see any of our players receive international honours whilst they're wearing the Trinity jersey, unfortunately. 
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| Quote Trojan Horse="Trojan Horse"
Players like charnley and Johnstone their time will come eventually. They just need to keep putting their hands up with good performances.'"
Tom's time will come when he gets some better service. If he was at a club like saints he'd have scored a bucketful more tries and he'd be going on the plane.
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| Quote Trinity1315="Trinity1315"Tom's time will come when he gets some better service. If he was at a club like saints he'd have scored a bucketful more tries and he'd be going on the plane.'"
Spot on mate...the difference with Tom this season is that he is not getting the ball in space like he did last year...he spends most of his time running it back in from an opposition kick down field, or just getting the ball a few metres out from the opposition line and then finishing it off (in style, I must admit) in the corner.
We don't seem to be able to get the ball out to him in space, so that he can score the long-distance classy tries that he was scoring for fun last year - not his fault, but he is not being given the opportunities to showcase his undoubted talents, so is not grabbing the headlines that we all know he is capable of.
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