By coffee club culture I was referring to the laid back attitude that seems to exist in some of the senior players who didn't like Brian Smith cos they had to work hard

Sorry, but it was nothing to do with the working hard bit.

The 62 0 defeat of Wigan was an anomaly a freak result hold onto it if you want vastman wear a t shirt with the score on.
It simply has no reflection on anything and to use it as a barometer of where we are as a playing group is bordering on the dillisional or hopelessly optimistic .

Just cannot understand why 'Belly' is not the coach !

Bl**dy hell there is not much hope for this club if fans like you dismiss the teams best performances in years as "freak results", it was bad enough when everyone else was doing it. I bet the team are really chuffed to have this one chalked off by some keyboard warrior as a "freak" rather than a first step in the right direction.

We were playing some brilliant RL for the middle third of the season, but hey you just bin everybody's efforts nothing. Wigan are not so far ahead of us but they do have the bodies and thus they can maintain form which we can't, it's not rocket science.

If you do nothing else at least change your name, full of hope by backside - just another moaning negative Wakey fan. I don't blame the players for giving up to soon, after all it's only mirroring the attitude of people like you.

Again, that's just my opinion and I'm giving it freely and I don't really care anymore if it offends - please feel free to give me some back.

The problem with our fans is expectation has risen too high, with the mid season success we all enjoyed! The old line about fitness coach is just plain boring now...there has been absolutely nothing wrong with the fitness of the lads the last two matches....there was nothing wrong with the fitness when going over and winning in France in searing heat....

Our problem through our recent run was quite simply down to the injury crisis...is it any coincidence we've been far more competitive the last two matches when key components of our pack have slotted back into place? Grafters like Ashurst and Molloy have got back fit and healthy and there's been much needed go forward added to Fifita with Simon & Anderson back in...

No disrespect to the youngsters, or fringe players but through that tough period when there is 3 or 4 of a combination of youngsters and the likes of Yates, Walker, Walton in the pack then there has been the problem! When we've had what you would consider a strong and healthy squad on the park we've played pretty well on the whole...

That says to me the strength in depth isn't quite there yet and the nature of the modern game dictates that if you go into any game patched up you can quite easily be on the end of a hiding...62-0 against Wigan proves that....the strides we have made in the last 12 months though is staggering....the next step on the ladder to the slow process of turning us around is to build that quality of depth through shrewd signings and hopefully the likes of Crowther and Batchelor to name two, to step up to regular first team players like Jowitt and Johnstone have done this year...

It won't happen all in one season...patience has to be key...I'm more than happy how things are going at present though...it's nowhere near as bad as some make out! The comment about coffee shop culture is just laughable!

Seriously if anyone else comes on here talking pure sense like this, I'm going to stop reading this forum.

And just another point...those two 'different class' teams Wigan and Warrington....I've seen us beat them both at Belle Vue this season!

Great post by Upthecats....




......squad needs reviewing with some to go out of the door & another 2/3 SL quality forwards to come in along with at a SL quality half back and another genuine hooker to compete with Moore for next season.

Plenty of genuine pace/competition in the outside backs for next season.Looking forward to seeing MCB in the red, white & blue.

Spot on,

All we need is a dose of unsportsmanlike unbridled fury, aggression and damaging physical violence, mixed with a complete disregard for our own and our opponents well being, and we'll be as good as the top 4 sides...

Talking of a different class, that is exactly what Soward was this afternoon.

Cant believe we are even contemolating half a game a month Campese when this blike is lingering in the championship.

Can see him going to somewhere like Hull KR or Widnes and playing us off the park.

Can see it now, Campese out injured again so Kyle Wood comes in