I imagine there will of been no loss financially because the students that did renew paid 4 1/2 x what they paid the season before so if just 20% renewed which I am guessing will have done, there wont be much of a difference.

But lets look at it this way - Imagine if the Student tickets were was upped to maybe £120 rather than full price, do you think as many would have not renewed? Or do you think that maybe there would of been a higher rate of renewals?

In that case there would be more season tickets sold (More or less same income on sales revenue) - More bodies in the ground, better atmosphere & more potential for sales on match day, obviously creating more revenue for the club.

It just didn't make sense to completely drop the student prices, yes, put it up by all means but full price?

I will say it again we are the only club that I know of in RL (Not just SL) to not have student priced tickets.

Near enough every establishment these days have student prices or student discount why? Because without it they would lose a large chunk of business.

I have stated before on here that I have been told that the number of student season ticket holders was not a significant number according to the club so I am not sure doing away with it has lost that many fans - the potential to attract a new generation of fans possibly but again young adults tend to want to watch a winning side unless they are already hooked having attended as a kid

If this is true,then it must have been under James Websters era.So now we've got Brian Smith,some new signings and being a lot more competitive in games,why don't they give it another chance.The stadium thing I can't argue with,but I go to watch the game,close up,not the decor.Can't possibly think of any excuse or reason to stop watching Trin,apart from dropping dead obviously.

There you go you see - if that's not apathy I don't know what is!

One day it could happen you know

It is 65 not 60 for a concession It changed this season

Are calling the people who saved the club clowns or the players?

I have probably been watching the team longer than you but when I stop going (if I ever do) that will be it, no going back.
I spoke to these people many times and they were just so deflated and demoralised they had had enough, maybe they will return.
However don't kid yourself, Locke apart. Anyone who knows anything about RL is not going to let the likes of Howarth, Arundel or Tansey tempt them back.

These were 5 good solid long time supporters who had just had enough, you can't build crowds when you are loosing supporters as fast as you attract and establish new ones.

The difference for the likes of Wigan and Saints is that a bad season is a blip and they know it. Our fans have been ground down through stadium let-downs and financial failures, lurching from one crisis to another. There comes a point when people have had enough. We have to remember that this is about watching rugby league and this year even that fell to new levels.

A good middle-8's with a new coach and things might turn a bit of a corner, but people need something to attach some hope to, which is what they did when Glover was here. It's just that no one knew it was fluff.

All I'm saying is that a new coach may make them have another go and if they have a season ticket already,as you say they have,then it won't cost them owt.

Maybe they will, who knows. However the point I am trying to make is that when you have a product which you can't even give away for free as in the case of these 5. How the hell do you expect to sell it to the wider public.

All that is true, of course, perhaps I expect too much but my main concern is that even Michael Carter, who has worked wanders, is going to struggle to make ends meet on meagre, embarrassing gates of 3K