That's the problem with stats . Take riley (who was my mom) he chased back full length of field and made a dive as player was scoring. Bet that was missed tackle

Thought Riley had a good game and almost caught Shenton but as you say would have counted as a miss.

Another one of your shockers dear me.

Yeah pipe down will ya.

I'm not sure what the "stats" say but if they shine any kind of positive light on any aspect of that "performance" then they are very misleading. Our forwards were inept. And that is being polite. Time and time again they received the ball on a standing start and trundled the ball upto the Cas defensive line with less aggression than my gran walks to the butcher on a saturday morning. The reason Cas dominated the middle is because their forwards RAN onto the ball at speed and they fought like hell for a quick play of the ball. This sucked more of our defenders in and left space to exploit out wide and it also meant Daryl Clark had a field day around the ruck. Our intensity was really poor. I wouldn't have been that disappointed had it come a few weeks ago but I really thought we'd turned a corner after the last two efforts.

Richie Moore, Jarrod Sammut and Chris Riley can hold their heads up high. A few others like Walshaw and Sykes put in effort but the forwards in parricular were absolutely dire. Get Sammut and Godinet in at the halves with Wildie/McShane interchanging, sack Mathers off and slot Owen in at fullback. Reece Lyne, Riley, Johnson and Briscoe can battle it out for the wings. Although, letting Fox go is questionable given the lack of quality on the wings. Fox would still be a better choice for wing than those choices.

It will be interesting to see what kind of response we get next Sunday against Warrington. We need Tautai and Annakin back. Max Jowitt could even be an option at fullback with Owen a wing option. Either which way get the halves sorted and give the forwards a kick up the because they are not a bad set of forwards which indicates to me it is a fitness/attitude problem. Let's be realistic, Cas haven't got a star studded pack but they taught our pack a lesson in attitude and aggression. They didn't even do anything outstanding but they worked their socks off and ran hard; it gave the likes of Sneyd and Clark a field day when kicking and attacking.

Tell you where I was sat pop tart ,sofa right in front of tele saw every thing from every angle close up the lot, and I'm afraid the most leniant and gentile person would not be swayed by your views we were rubbish mate and our forwards accept for kirmond and Moore were completely dominated like you say watch it tonight but please be prepared to give an honest opinion I want no ringing your mate scarlet and asking what should I post ok

it seemed we were only prepared to put two men into the tackle which meant loads of times cas players were "held" still on their feet, this meant they were playing the ball quickly while we were still setting up at marker. by the time big players like Anderson and co got into position Clarke had already gone. it needs three players in the tackle these days to put the player on the ground and take control of the ruck area.

We were miles away yesterday, and looked very lazy in defence compared to the Hull game, when I thought they scrambled and defended for their lives. Very strange.

also, half backs are generally fairly weak tacklers and we had a lot of half backs on the field. which does not help.

You should know I don't follow the crowd for the easy route. I'll call it how I see it.

Well I'll tell you. I watched it, in detail and wrote down details.
Anderson had a great game in defence. His only mistake was not getting back in position when Clarke broke away but he'd made the tackle previously and the player walked past him to put him off side.
I only saw 2 tackles where he was 3rd man in.

In his two stints he worked his off.

So did Scruton who hardly had a break for whole game.

Moore was very energetic when he came on and dominated the tackle in most of his runs.

Smith was poor. Little impact with ball and weak in defence. Fairbank was weaker. Missed some significant ones.
Kirmond was all over the place and only forward with ability to bust. We missed him when he went off.
Washbrook was ok in defence but nothing in attack.
Ryan was weak with ball and went off not to return.

Godinet needs to be on longer. He added a lot of zip.
Sykes was poor. Passing was painfully slow which cost us in attack.
Siejka wasn't bad with ball in hand but hardly any of his kicks came off.

Sammut returned the ball really well. Always a threat. Not bad in defence either.

Collis I thought was poor. Apart from catching a high ball he did nothing and missed some tackles.
Walshaw in comparison was excellent.
Riley was the only player to break a tackle and did well in second half..
Mathers was not nearly as bad as some say.
His missed tackle on Carney actually let him run into three tacklers and went through them. They were worse than Mathers. (Smith, Fairbank and Sammut)

Not one sixth play worked.
We gave them easy ball at times and most tries came from mistakes.

Not irrecoverable but I'd drop Sykes, Collis, Fairbank, Smith back at prop or dropped.
Possibly give Siejka another go with Godinet at scrum half. Depends what Owen looks like at fullback. If so Sammut to stand off. Ryan back at centre assuming fit.
Raleigh in at prop if fit.

For Cas, they got some lucky breaks. Couple of decisions but nothing major.
Huby and Lynch were good for them. Clarke and Sneyd were excellent. They were key difference

Sammut & Moore in my eyes were prepared to put their body on the line.

The rest were not interested.

I thought Riley was excellent. Lots of effort, enthusiasm and endeavour.......a loan signing from Warrington.

Says it all really.

Easy - Danny Kirmond. I would swap him for Weller Hauraki anyday.