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| Snowie only got a dozen people to help out with ground repairs, what makes you think thousands are gonna protest, this is the fickle Wakey fans we're talking about here!
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| We could all protest but ones things for sure Agar wont go of his own accord he showed that when at Hull look at the verbal he got from those fans and still continued until his contract ran out.
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| Quote: les-goose "We could all protest but ones things for sure Agar wont go of his own accord he showed that when at Hull look at the verbal he got from those fans and still continued until his contract ran out.'"
You are right, he will not walk, the protests he will get from Wakey fans will seem like compliments after being at Hull.
If he would just stop dicking around with the team and making excuses, it would be slightly better.
Someone has to take the decision out of his hands.
It's a huge call but one that has to be made.
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| I was in despair when we appointed him. I live in the East Riding..I saw the Hull perfomances. I heard the talk..I knew where this would end..I'm sure many of you knew it too. I'm not claiming special status..it just depresses me. For Christ's sake lets rid ousrelves of RICHARD AGAR!
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| MC was honest in admitting he had limited rugby knowledge, this is why he brought Kath Hetherington in.
Maybe MC feels a duty of loyalty because KH has come in and done a pretty good job.
Unfortunately the pick of Leeds loan players just about sums up RA's selection policy.
I don't think it's a secret that KH and RA are very good friends.
I hope MC has not backed himself into a corner by over trusting the people who have the 'rugby knowledge'.
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| Quote: charlie63wildcat "I am not a rich man but I pledge £100. Only needs a 1000 to do same and maybe RA might take it to have a beach holiday and stop wrecking our club'"
A lot of us have said in the past what we could do if we won the lottery without being specific. I reckon the majority would now know exactly what would be the best use of that cash.
You can put me down for £100 anytime.
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| Quote: Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo "Quote: Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo "I am not a rich man but I pledge £100. Only needs a 1000 to do same and maybe RA might take it to have a beach holiday and stop wrecking our club'"
A lot of us have said in the past what we could do if we won the lottery without being specific. I reckon the majority would now know exactly what would be the best use of that cash.
You can put me down for £100 anytime.'"
Sounds like a plan, fans are asked to back the club.
This maybe the way?
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| The answer to the OP's post is 'no'.
I remember the Good Friday fixture two years ago.
A depressing night. There were calls for Agar to go even then, albeit from a tiny drunken minority.
I think we'd only won two games by then as well.
Also remember the crowd cheering when Tim Smith was substituted against Warrington.
Indeed, we didn't start to turn things round until the Magic Weekend, when a scruffy victory saw us go on a run until the end of the season where we only lost another 4 games (from memory).
The squad we have this season is not as good as that one and certainly the defence is a concern.
But it is clear that Agar is still trying trying to find the right combinations. I don't necessarily agree with him but he's the coach and will live or die, in coaching terms, by his decisions.
I think in reality, he has until the Bradford game to get it right.
If we can get on something of a roll by then, then we should stay up. If we can't you can protest all you want as far as I'm concerned.
Protests at this stage will not help a team which is already clearly low on confidence.
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| The real frustrating thing is that Agar got it right with the team he played against Warrington with the exception of Collis who was out injured that day plus Siejka shouldn't be on the bench as it should be Wildie who is a natural hooker IMO.
Sammut and Godinet at pivots with Tautai at loose forward.
If it wasn't for the crap refereeing we may have won that day.
Why move away from a winning formula?
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| Quote: DWA "The answer to the OP's post is 'no'.
I remember the Good Friday fixture two years ago.
A depressing night. There were calls for Agar to go even then, albeit from a tiny drunken minority.
I think we'd only won two games by then as well.
Also remember the crowd cheering when Tim Smith was substituted against Warrington.
Indeed, we didn't start to turn things round until the Magic Weekend, when a scruffy victory saw us go on a run until the end of the season where we only lost another 4 games (from memory).
The squad we have this season is not as good as that one and certainly the defence is a concern.
But it is clear that Agar is still trying trying to find the right combinations. I don't necessarily agree with him but he's the coach and will live or die, in coaching terms, by his decisions.
I think in reality, he has until the Bradford game to get it right.
If we can get on something of a roll by then, then we should stay up. If we can't you can protest all you want as far as I'm concerned.
Protests at this stage will not help a team which is already clearly low on confidence.'"
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| Quote: PopTart "
Agree.
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| Agar has the rest of this season and the next 2 to get things right like it or not he aint going anywhere simple as.If we are to be with Agar then I know money is tight but we should bring a good defensive coach in to work with him as its quite clear to see we have not had a good defensive structure since he came.Even when we went on that 7 game run we let some real soft scores in.I just hope with todays game that he gives the young players a good run out and not just a 5 mins stint as those lads have something to prove not just to turn up and go through the motions like some senior players have and that could just ignite the fire.We should be in the position after todays game that Agar can say right you didn't play and the player that filled in had so good a game you will have to fight your way back in.
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| Coaching staff are on easy street, no rugby committee to answer to, no one questioning anything they do. Kath Hethrington may know about contracts and agents and be well connected but knows nothing about the game and knows nothing about a relegation battle. Any idiot can see what`s wrong on the pitch, what`s wrong with selection and what`s wrong with the squad management. I said weeks ago that we needed to highlight games that we had a chance in that we were in a relegation battle, but no the great and the good at the club were talking about top 8, gelling and beating Leeds in the cup ; absolute madness. As a result exactly what I said would happen has happened, best players over played and injured.
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| Quote: bellycouldtackle "Coaching staff are on easy street, no rugby committee to answer to, no one questioning anything they do. Kath Hethrington may know about contracts and agents and be well connected but knows nothing about the game and knows nothing about a relegation battle. Any idiot can see what`s wrong on the pitch, what`s wrong with selection and what`s wrong with the squad management. I said weeks ago that we needed to highlight games that we had a chance in that we were in a relegation battle, but no the great and the good at the club were talking about top 8, gelling and beating Leeds in the cup ; absolute madness. As a result exactly what I said would happen has happened, best players over played and injured.'"
Belly can't argue with any of that.
Also add that we have now played 9 league games and during that time we have had 2 players on loan from Leeds
who have had no influence whatsoever and yet we are quick to loan out our own players to other clubs.
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| Quote: bellycouldtackle "Coaching staff are on easy street, no rugby committee to answer to, no one questioning anything they do. Kath Hethrington may know about contracts and agents and be well connected but knows nothing about the game and knows nothing about a relegation battle. Any idiot can see what`s wrong on the pitch, what`s wrong with selection and what`s wrong with the squad management. I said weeks ago that we needed to highlight games that we had a chance in that we were in a relegation battle, but no the great and the good at the club were talking about top 8, gelling and beating Leeds in the cup ; absolute madness. As a result exactly what I said would happen has happened, best players over played and injured.'" there seems to be a miss conception of what's good on paper and what's good on the field, we have chosen to class our selves as a top 8 side, now we are showing our lack of depth in quality and lack of commitment to the club in colours, I may be harsh on that last comment but that is where we see it from a fans point of view.
I'm all for thinking of taking a top eight spot but this year is so so serious to the clubs future that we have lost the fact that we should of pin pointed games that we had to win come what may and two of those have gone, if we do go down were going to looking back again and see where it all went wrong and bee kicking our selves for not preparing right.
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