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Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "No, the new ground will go ahead while ever Wakefield MDC and Yorkcourt wants it to, so to speak, but of course it is still subject to the PI. Newmarket does not rely on any funding from the club at all so they are not giving up on it and probably won't give up in it lightly, irrespective of the current issues at the club. The travellers site is being talked about only if things don't progress for any reason, as I understand it, on the stadium on this site, but there is no current indication that they are planning anything other than to progress with participating fully in the PI.'"


Thats not what Ted said a copule of weeks ago in the league express. What happened to the £1.1million earmarked for Newmarket then Ted? You know, the balance from the sale of Belle Vue?

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Ive heard that yorkcourt maybe looking to pull out now because of the way things are going with the club and the rising costs that are happening, Thousands have to be spent on the environmental survey and there is no guarantee of the PI going their way,can anyone confirm or refute this please

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[b:1swa1vwo]Change is inevitable ...except from a vending machine![/b:1swa1vwo] [quote="BillyRhino":1swa1vwo]So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish> IA mode off. :wink:[/quote:1swa1vwo]:33791.jpg



Quote: Tricky2309 "Sorry IA I read your previous post wrong and thought you had heard rumours that the stadium wasn't going to progress.'"


No, they are committed to it and Wakefield MDC want a community stadium in Wakefield and this is the site they are pushing and will continue to push to a point where it either gets permission or doesn't as far as I am concerned and currently aware.

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I_A I may be wrong, but Yorkcourt have a big decision to make before the Bespoke Timetable is agreed. They pull out of the PI now and go with the proposed 51 ha of land without a stadium in a few months time at no cost, or risk pulling out of the PI after the timetable is agreed, which could make them liable for all the costs of the PI?

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[b:1swa1vwo]Change is inevitable ...except from a vending machine![/b:1swa1vwo] [quote="BillyRhino":1swa1vwo]So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish> IA mode off. :wink:[/quote:1swa1vwo]:33791.jpg



Quote: Return Of The Saint "Ive heard that yorkcourt maybe looking to pull out now because of the way things are going with the club and the rising costs that are happening, Thousands have to be spent on the environmental survey and there is no guarantee of the PI going their way,can anyone confirm or refute this please'"


Firstly, what rising costs? The only current 'extra' is to put together a more robust Environmental survey, which they probably would have to do anyway under a planning condition and therefore a reserved matter, with or without a stadium, because West Yorkshire Ecology would have pushed for them to include one and see no reason why Wakefield planning committee would not have done just that had it not been called-in. Statistically the PI is likely to go in their favour, although their is not guarantees and also they are a developer, this is all about the long haul and they just will not walk away from this that easily. They knew what they were heading into and while ever there investors are happy, they will be happy to keep pushing.

I think this one is just the usual doom and gloom rumour and nothing more. Nothing has changed for them or Wakefield MDC.

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thats what ive been told, if they loose, they are more than likely to bare the whole costs of the PI, which will run into thousands, dont shoot me IA, but my the guy who told me works for a specialst on planning issues for very large companies (plc's)

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Quote: Return Of The Saint "thats what ive been told, if they loose, they are more than likely to bare the whole costs of the PI, which will run into thousands, dont shoot me IA, but my the guy who told me works for a specialst on planning issues for very large companies (plc's)'"


Of course pet........

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[b:1swa1vwo]Change is inevitable ...except from a vending machine![/b:1swa1vwo] [quote="BillyRhino":1swa1vwo]So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish> IA mode off. :wink:[/quote:1swa1vwo]:33791.jpg



Quote: bigalf "I_A i may be wrong, but Yorkcourt have a big decision to make before the Bespoke Timetable is agreed. If they pull out now at no cost, or after the timetable is agreed, which could make them liable for all the costs of the PI?'"


They can pull out at any time they want and it only costs what it costs, which is not much relatively, until the pubic hearings and the blood sucking advocates come into play and then larger bills start coming in... icon_wink.gif

Also, it is not Yorkcourt that foot the majority of the bill for a PI is it... Wakefield MDC do!

The bespoke timetable will be published this Thursday/Friday unless they say before then, that they do not wish to proceed.

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"Castleford's biggest home crowd of the 1991-1992 season wasn't quite 12,000 while on average they'd sit around 6000 but the noise, the chanting and the singing just blows you away" - Tawera Nikau "Standing Tall" "I can tell you the atmosphere was extraordinary at Wheldon Road on big days. The ground held around 15,000 people, every one of them close to the action on the field and the noise would be enough to send a rumble through the town" - Malcolm Reilly "Reilly - A Life in Rugby League":d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39793.jpg



Quote: Return Of The Saint "thats what ive been told, if they loose, they are more than likely to bare the whole costs of the PI, which will run into thousands, dont shoot me IA, but my the guy who told me works for a specialst on planning issues for very large companies (plc's)'"


51Ha almost guaranteed, or 85Ha at god knows what extra planning costs plus £15 million for a stadium?

I bet Yorkcourt know what they can afford icon_wink.gif

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[b:1swa1vwo]Change is inevitable ...except from a vending machine![/b:1swa1vwo] [quote="BillyRhino":1swa1vwo]So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish> IA mode off. :wink:[/quote:1swa1vwo]:33791.jpg



Quote: bigalf "51Ha almost guaranteed, or 85Ha at god knows what extra planning costs plus £15 million for a stadium?

I bet Yorkcourt know what they can afford
But you are assuming that Wakefield MDC's current and longer term tacit agreements with Yorkcourt are simply about this site... lots of sites and section 106 agreements to go at across the district in the next plan period!

PS. I don't actually know anything at all BTW... just how these things work! icon_wink.gif

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[b:1swa1vwo]Change is inevitable ...except from a vending machine![/b:1swa1vwo] [quote="BillyRhino":1swa1vwo]So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish> IA mode off. :wink:[/quote:1swa1vwo]:33791.jpg



Quote: bigalf "51Ha almost guaranteed, or 85Ha at god knows what extra planning costs plus £15 million for a stadium?

I bet Yorkcourt know what they can afford
Bloody hell, almost missed that gem... so have you conceded this one to the power of the LDF? icon_wink.gif

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"Castleford's biggest home crowd of the 1991-1992 season wasn't quite 12,000 while on average they'd sit around 6000 but the noise, the chanting and the singing just blows you away" - Tawera Nikau "Standing Tall" "I can tell you the atmosphere was extraordinary at Wheldon Road on big days. The ground held around 15,000 people, every one of them close to the action on the field and the noise would be enough to send a rumble through the town" - Malcolm Reilly "Reilly - A Life in Rugby League":d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39793.jpg



I_A Just out of interest what other developments have Yorkcourt ongoing at the moment, apart from Paragon ( Only approx 50% completed after 5 years +) ?

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"Castleford's biggest home crowd of the 1991-1992 season wasn't quite 12,000 while on average they'd sit around 6000 but the noise, the chanting and the singing just blows you away" - Tawera Nikau "Standing Tall" "I can tell you the atmosphere was extraordinary at Wheldon Road on big days. The ground held around 15,000 people, every one of them close to the action on the field and the noise would be enough to send a rumble through the town" - Malcolm Reilly "Reilly - A Life in Rugby League":d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39793.jpg



Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "Bloody hell, almost missed that gem... so have you conceded this one to the power of the LDF?
Not quite, but I said almost, lets see on the 24th!

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[b:1swa1vwo]Change is inevitable ...except from a vending machine![/b:1swa1vwo] [quote="BillyRhino":1swa1vwo]So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish> IA mode off. :wink:[/quote:1swa1vwo]:33791.jpg



Quote: bigalf "I_A Just out of interest what other developments have Yorkcourt ongoing at the moment, apart from Paragon ( Only approx 50% completed after 5 years +) ?'"


I have no idea mate, I don't have any professional dealings with them (despite people on Cas Forum thinking I have icon_wink.gif ) they might not have any TBH, but suspect that they may have quite a few sites on their radar. Paragon is a good example of the long-haul view of these types of developers though... it was 1986 when they first started looking at that site! The only reason Paragon is not further along is the recession and current oversupply of office space in West Yorkshire... remember it is mixed use office development not B8. I suspect they did quite well out of a government funded project on the site though... icon_wink.gif

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