I promise you I have come on here with no agenda other than to put across my point on why I am opposed to the industrialisation of the Newmarket site, I do realise that I am going to get no support for what I believe is the greater good of our community from you folks on here as you are all wildcats fans and you all want this to happen, and I dare say that in the long run you will be proved to be right and this will all go ahead but if I and others just sat back and watched it happen without making our voices heard then we would not be being true to our beliefs, another point you make is that the wildcats would be shafted as you put it if this ground does not go ahead well to be honest I don’t know about that all I do know is that rugby has been played in Wakefield for over 100 years and I am sure this would continue to be the case as I am sure there are other suitable sites. As other people have mentioned about all the hundreds of jobs that would be created by all this, well from what I have seen of this sort of thing in the past you could have a warehouse as big as 3 rugby fields and only have 6 guys on forklifts working in it so I think that number of jobs could be very much exaggerated, but anyway these are just my thoughts and I do realise that I am in a very big minority so I think it will just be a case of wait and see what comes of it all.

My first post was a response to what appeared to be a "reasonable" opposition to the proposals from someone who had no benefit coming from the proposals.

Unfortunately, your second post clearly shows you to be a fully paid up member of the NIMBY brigade and thus not open to a proper debate on the subject.

Many sites which used to be pit sites have been landscaped and returend to nature sites. However this one in particular benefits from it's location adjacent to the motorway, and that, in my view, renders it liable to development as the traffic movements, once off the motorway, will be as small as can reasonably be accomodated.

In comparison to ALL the other motorway junctions, this one has escaped for a long time:
Junction 39 has been developed - partly on old quarry workings, but much of it on arable land (some belonging to my ancestors many moons ago - and no, we didn't sell it for development).
Junction 40 has seen a great deal of development over recent years - again there is history of mine workings in the area, but there is also arable farming which has been lost.
Junction 41 now has the junction 41 estate (some of this land was sold by uncle to allow development, unfortunately he sold it in the 70's because he couldn't make money out of rhubarb at the time) and it has Paragon.
Junction 31 on the M62 has Normantion ind est and the Freeport site.
Junction 32 has - well, everything!

So, why would it not be suitable to develop J30 as the next logical move, on land previously used for heavy, dirty, industry and which in turn offers the opportunity to provide Wakefield with much needed sporting facilities - both to encourage and develop activity in sport for achievers at all levels and to preserve our sporting heritage and prevent the removal of the the most significant 'Wakefield' branded organisation from the top level of it's sport.

It's a no-brainer for me - even allowing for some sympathy for those in the midst of it all.

The problem that Wakefield has is a shortage of industrial/commercial land for the long term future which it needs in order to create the much needed jobs the district requires. I know that there are developments on junctions of the M1 and M62 but these are becomong developed and Junction 30 offers the district a long term opportunity for job creation which needs to be taken. I understand that Leeds are looking at the otherside of the mororway so I suspect the junction will be developed.

With regard to Green Belt, yes part of the site is Green Belt but it is not historic Green Belt or Ancient Woodland or anything of Conservational value. It was the former Newmarket Silkstone Colliery which has gone and the site holds no heritage value. It will have been designated Green Belt when the pit closed and at the time there was no requirement for more industrial/commercial land but times have moved on and we need developments that will create employment and waht better place than at the side of the M62.

This development is not just about a Stadium. Of course we want to see a Stadium that we can call home but Wakefield need this development for its long term future and that of its residents. I only hope the people of Wakefield can see this and it would be nice for the Editorial of the Wakefield Express to see the benefits to Wakefield and give its supports.

There may be other sites suitable for a stadium on its own, but given that the club has already sold Belle Vue and there is a need to have external funding to build a new ground the ONLY solution is for a larger development that includes a stadium rather than a stand alone project.

Whilst a large warehouse may have a relatively small people working in it, there are the other jobs created by the distribution (i.e. drivers) that you won't see within the building.

Rather than spending time posting your drivel on here, you should either get out & appreciate the manufactured green belt while it lasts or get searching for a new house in the middle of a national park.

BTW you still havent answered my original question.

What % of Wakefields greenbelt would this development wipe out?

As you did state it would wipe out a large chunk.

Do you honestly believe that a stadium built in isolation(even if it was financially viable) wouldnt then lead to further development?

Just listen to yourself. That is utterly ridiculous - just which 'community' do you represent? The one that lives on Newmarket Lane, or the one which includes 15,000 folk who have voted to say yes to the need for a stadium, or the one that includes families struggling to find work in these difficult times.

That last phrase is a threat by any other name. If I were you I would keep my powder dry for now, as you clearly wish to de-rail the train - but we will be making sure it stays right on track - and we believe that we have the 'community' interests very much at heart!

1 if theres an award for bravest post of the year, well you left it late but you have won it!
2. I await the arrival of sandal cat with his knowledge of the brown belt issues which will see your argument dissolve in to oblivion.=#FF0000 EDIT SEE ABOVE!!!!!
3. Id happily pay you in to the first game at the new ground should it happen, for being brave enought to at least be honest, trust me its great and youd come back!
4.Industrial units do bring jobs, yes there are 6 people in fork lifts yoou can see outside, most of the people work inside the buildings, its like a house you see, just because you cant see the people does not mean they dont live there, maybe we could build glass industrial units??
5. happy new year anyway!

My sister lives in Stanley, she was dead against the Thornes development, she now wants the thornes developement back on.

Unlucky, be careful what you wish for come sometimes you get it. Nimby's should all be shot , they prevent the world from progressing.

Could you be more specific on the highlighted points.

What are your beliefs?

Where are these other sites that would be commercially and financially viable that you are sure exist?

What other developments in the past are you referring to and did you oppose these sites?

Did you oppose the Thornes Park proposals?

I would presume you are a member of WCCG.
The video is quite laughable and actaully highlights the need to move away from predominately residential areas,yet you state you are happy for just the stadium to be built -- seems to contradict what your little band of followers believe!!!!!

Showing rubbish in gardens -- get real and no disrespect to Belle Vue/Agbrigg,but you could walk down many streets in Agbrigg and find that amount of litter in a garden.That has more to do with the residents than the stadium.

Your own website even highlights the fact that Wakefield need a new stadium to protect their super league survival.

The facts are,you dont give a monkeys about Wakefield Wildcats,the benefits to the wider community of a first class sporting facility,the benefits of job creation.

The simple fact is you just dont want the development next to you!! and are trying to hide behind the greenbelt issues.

God having looked at the wccg site the whole thing turns in to farce, hey everyone theres a crisp packet on the floor on a street in wakefield www.wakefieldccg.co.uk/ anyway for fun lets count the spelling errors and gramatical errors on that page alone,we are not dealing with clever people here! and i withdraw my offer to pay to take you to a game as i dont mix with people who's iq is lower than their weight in tons!

God having looked at the wccg site the whole thing turns in to farce, hey everyone theres a crisp packet on the floor on a street in wakefield www.wakefieldccg.co.uk/ anyway for fun lets count the spelling errors and gramatical errors on that page alone,we are not dealing with clever people here! and i withdraw my offer to pay to take you to a game as i dont mix with people who's iq is lower than their weight in tons!

Quote chapster="chapster"God having looked at the wccg site the whole thing turns in to farce, hey everyone theres a crisp packet on the floor on a street in wakefield www.wakefieldccg.co.uk/ anyway for fun lets count the spelling errors and gramatical errors on that page alone,we are not dealing with clever people here! and i withdraw my offer to pay to take you to a game as i dont mix with people whis iq is lower than their weight in tons!'" Its worth a chuckle isnt it!!! It was good to see they interviewed a cross section of society,including,crackheads,illegal immigrants ,single parents and for pity sake a Volvo driver!!!!!!!!!!!

Quote chapster="chapster"God having looked at the wccg site the whole thing turns in to farce, hey everyone theres a crisp packet on the floor on a street in wakefield www.wakefieldccg.co.uk/ anyway for fun lets count the spelling errors and gramatical errors on that page alone,we are not dealing with clever people here! and i withdraw my offer to pay to take you to a game as i dont mix with people whis iq is lower than their weight in tons!'" Its worth a chuckle isnt it!!! It was good to see they interviewed a cross section of society,including,crackheads,illegal immigrants ,single parents and for pity sake a Volvo driver!!!!!!!!!!!