In the 2nd half Bibey showed very quick hands near the line and did show this a few times last season.

Does a good solid job for us and will be inportant this season to do the basics, just don't expect him to make 50m breaks!

Edited for accuracy.lol

Exactly, just because he is so big people expect him to be bursting through the tackles. Props like Feka and Peacock do this because as well as size they have pace and explosive power. I'm sure Bibey is a powerul man but he does not have that explosive power to take him through the tackles. Ricky tires the opposition defense due to his sheer size and weight thus allowing our other players to make the breaks and capitalise on their tiredness.

i think bibeys been doing ok this season up to now and if he concentrates on just hitting the ball up and not missing tackles thatl be job done. has for bibb he shouldnt need a rest after 3 sl games him and fergy are coming up to 22 now theyre adult players now. the difference in between the two is that fergy looks like he wants to be on the pitch and bibb dont, hes not blessed with pace so hes got to use what hes got his size and at the moment hes playing with no grunt in him. its an ideal oppertunity to stake a claim for a place at this moment he isnt, bibeys not special but hes there he trys to make the tackles and puts himself about, a choice between the two and its bibey for me.

Thats what I'm saying. I'm not saying he should need a rest but if he's dropped then it might give him a kick up the backside and spur him on, Fergys going well and staking his claim as a regular Bibb needs to look more interested cos at the moment it looks like he wants to be anywhere but on the pitch.

never thought i would hear myself say this, but bibey has done a great job since the start of the season, best i have seen him play, attack and defence. can't fault his effort. as for stotich, by the end of the season he will be one of the best. as for bib not punching his weight, needs a lot more effort and a lot more aggression. should be stepping up to the plate now.hope he does

How old is Fergurson?

Must be coming into his third possibly fourth season around the squad, now as a first choice back rower this season; as such expect his to start showing that or could be shipped on a la Golden (who he has shown less than...admittedly he's had injuries and we have only played three games)

ferguson is nearly 21

then i am been harsh, at 20 a player can still be whatever he wants to be

He's been around forever it seems but he is still young. Was in the top 50 teenagers in the world last year no38 I think.

Where do you obtain that info from Vasty. I would like to have a look at that list just for interest sake.

Cheers

It was in Rugby League World last year. Ferguson and Gleeson were in it from us. Westerman was 12th I think, Falou was 2nd and Burgess 1st. What I can't tell you is who compiled it or how credible it is.

cheers for that

2008's list is here --> rlhttp://forum.sportal.com.au/viewthread.aspx?t

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