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| I really can't be bothered argueing about this again. We seem to have the same Posts from the same anti-Kear briggade all over again.
For the record, I like Kear. I want him to stay. I think the team is doing well given the circumstances. The kids are gaining great experience but needing some rests now.
I'll support them through this time and onwards.
No more to say
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| Only problem I have with Kear is his team selections
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| Quote: Wildthing "Yep, against a team we previously couldnt buy a win against.
All forgotten now after 2 defeats.
Huddersfield were appalling that day and the weather was atrocious too, real leveller. Their fast men couldn't get going. They finally gave it some air out wide with 5 minutes to go and we were all over the place. Another 10 minutes and Shudds would have chalked up 20+ points.
Hull weren't any thing special either, believe it or not with just 30 minutes to play all the Hull fans surrounding us were calling for Agar's head.
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| Quote: Lupset_Airport "Huddersfield were appalling that day and the weather was atrocious too, real leveller. Their fast men couldn't get going. They finally gave it some air out wide with 5 minutes to go and we were all over the place. Another 10 minutes and Shudds would have chalked up 20+ points.
Hull weren't any thing special either, believe it or not with just 30 minutes to play all the Hull fans surrounding us were calling for Agar's head.'"
How the hell do you know, you were not even there, did you just decide to accept Giant Daz match report. Funny how Kear gets no credit for having the right tactics on that day but gets bagged when he doesn't. You really have not got a clue.
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| Quote: vastman "How the hell do you know, you were not even there, did you just decide to accept Giant Daz match report. Funny how Kear gets no credit for having the right tactics on that day but gets bagged when he doesn't. You really have not got a clue.'"
I have given up with this one Vasty. He's bizarre and its like trying to educate pork.
Do yourself a favour and ignore the 'moron'
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| Quote: vastman "You won't listen to anyone else, why should they listen to you?
IMO Kear took his finger off the boil last season, but who can blame him after the players he lost through no fault of his own who he was building a team around - now casually forgotten. He now has a team no one on here thought would get a win let alone 6 wins - casually forgotten. A team made up mainly of Academy players, cast offs and old men - casually forgotten. Trying to motivate a team that as yet doesn't know if it has a future - casually forgotten. Facing other teams who are clearly better - just read Hulls team sheet - have they got a scrum half who was playing for Batley last year - casually forgotten.
I could go on but I will spare you. Yes Kears selections do baffle me but then are there any players in this team who pick themselves - not many. Yes Kear is begining to believe in the legend of Kear which is a worry. However the saying no excuses is clearly wrong in this case, there are plenty of excuses.
According to many on here the last regime was the worst ever, yet others seems to think that this should have had no effect on the team - come on!
If we hit 10 points this season I will be delighted and so should you it's one hell of an achievement and based on that Kear should IMO get another contract and be given the resources he needs. Why people on here think that the likes of Powell, Harrison or Millard would do better need IMO to give their heads a shake - talk about the grass is greener.
Challenge your coaching team to do better when you give them the players they need not before. That's like challenging Lewis hamilton to win F1 in a Lada.
That's what I think.'"
All very fair points - and all taken with a huge amount of gratitude to John.
But.... The problem, if that's what it is, is, IMO, that John is perfect at taking a rag-tag bunch, banding them together and getting them up for a fight. As I say, if he just landed today I would imagine us having a huge lift and winning 3 or 4 more games this season against much tougher opposition. However, on the skills side of things, I feel that we have failed to adapt; failed to move forward and failed to keep up with what the game has now become. Add these to the fact that, on occasion (and far too regularly for me), we do seem to have the strangest selections of players - to the point that it does appear as if someone is just making a point in doing it!
Can I just say that in all this, there has to be reasoning behind the choice of the successor. We have for too long seen the assistant step up at Wakefield becuase they were the easy choice. I don't want easy, I want quality - and none of the names you have mentioned would tick that box as head coach - unless we are in the Championship! I would however suggest that a JD or Morro would make a superb assistant at our club, just as Willie is doing at Wire right now.
IMO it's time to move forward in a new direction. It's time to concentrate on bringing our own produce through to the first team. It's time to stop this relentless effort to sign old men when we can't keep hold of the young ones. It's time to change the left/right basis of our attack. It's time to move away from the reliance on the scoot and the drive. It's time to see set plays, dummy runners and play from deep, and it's time to free the players such that they are not worried that trying to off-load and failing will result in a spell in the reserves - rather that adventourous play should be rewarded, encouraged and nurtured in order that we can be entertained and, that we can begin to play the kind of RL that ALL the other clubs in SL appear capable of playing and that, IMO, we CAN - if given the chance!
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| Quote: TRB "All very fair points - and all taken with a huge amount of gratitude to John.
But.... The problem, if that's what it is, is, IMO, that John is perfect at taking a rag-tag bunch, banding them together and getting them up for a fight. As I say, if he just landed today I would imagine us having a huge lift and winning 3 or 4 more games this season against much tougher opposition. However, on the skills side of things, I feel that we have failed to adapt; failed to move forward and failed to keep up with what the game has now become. Add these to the fact that, on occasion (and far too regularly for me), we do seem to have the strangest selections of players - to the point that it does appear as if someone is just making a point in doing it!
Can I just say that in all this, there has to be reasoning behind the choice of the successor. We have for too long seen the assistant step up at Wakefield becuase they were the easy choice. I don't want easy, I want quality - and none of the names you have mentioned would tick that box as head coach - unless we are in the Championship! I would however suggest that a JD or Morro would make a superb assistant at our club, just as Willie is doing at Wire right now.
IMO it's time to move forward in a new direction. It's time to concentrate on bringing our own produce through to the first team. It's time to stop this relentless effort to sign old men when we can't keep hold of the young ones. It's time to change the left/right basis of our attack. It's time to move away from the reliance on the scoot and the drive. It's time to see set plays, dummy runners and play from deep, and it's time to free the players such that they are not worried that trying to off-load and failing will result in a spell in the reserves - rather that adventourous play should be rewarded, encouraged and nurtured in order that we can be entertained and, that we can begin to play the kind of RL that ALL the other clubs in SL appear capable of playing and that, IMO, we CAN - if given the chance!'"
Amen to that!
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| please dont panic, the torture is nearly over.
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| Quote: MOPSEY LIVES ON "please dont panic, the torture is nearly over.'"
Why are you going to stop posting?
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| Quote: vastman "Why are you going to stop posting?'"
Ouch!
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| Quote: Lupset_Airport "Kear usually starts out with the right tactics but the side always goes away from the game plan once a try is conceded.'"
as somebody who thinks that kear is the best we’ve had in a generation, i would have to concede that i can understand why you would hold this particular view. i’m sure it’s not the case, but we have a young side, and it’s understandable that they react poorly and get overrun when things don’t go to plan.
the challenge is what to do about it, and i think that our options are limited.
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| Quote: fat faced fan "the challenge is what to do about it, and i think that our options are limited.'"
Agreed - until July 26th, they're almost non-existent.
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So because I say I was there I wasn't? And I'm clueless?
Lol. Reminds me of all the times I denied I was Rhubarb, which meant I was Rhubarb.
Sir Olivier Elima was no Rhubarb....
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| No just a sad pretender, mr benson maybe but not rhubadub.
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