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I fully support DC and the club. We don't want the club to go back to silly contracts. The club will have put a value on each player and are sticking to this.

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Quote: Daddycool "It would be interesting to hear your definition of ‘reasonable sum’? This is at the heart of all discussions regarding whether a player is value for money, and yet no one knows a players salary, and therefore, surely it follows that it’s very difficult to say whether a player is value for money or not without that information wouldn’t it?'"


I agree we fans don’t know the players salaries and nor should we.

It is just my opinion that giving a two year deal to a player who can only play one position and who is nowhere near the player he was, was a mistake when we are working with a limited budget. In this particular instance, my view is using the Brough money as part of a package for Hampshire who can cover 3 positions to a decent standard and stays relatively injury free and has many years ahead of him plus another HB would have been a better way to go

As I said before, my view may change when the full makeup of the 2020 squad is known

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Quote: wakeytrin "I fully support DC and the club. We don't want the club to go back to silly contracts. The club will have put a value on each player and are sticking to this.'"


But you don’t know what contract was offered and what Hampshire asked for, so no evidence he was after silly money.

BTW, I did not agree with the interview that Hampshire gave to the press on his contract issues and think any chance of a deal been agreed was over after it.

My final point is a general one in that this is a forum for fans to express opinions on players etc. and we can still support the club generally whilst at the same time not agreeing with certain decisions on player ins/outs

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Quote: wakeytrin "I fully support DC and the club. We don't want the club to go back to silly contracts. The club will have put a value on each player and are sticking to this.'"

That's the thing how do you know what is a silly contract, everything has value it only become relivant when more than one shows interest in the asset, if your purse doesn't allow you to go past what your willing to pay what you think it's worth then so be it.

I still don't think brough was worth the risk but I have no idea of his value but on this season he's not performed as some expected, I would of liked to of seen rocky given the chance but he's made his stance now.

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Quote: FickleFingerOfFate "Who's going to miss out in the three quarters?
If we go with the same back line, then the Atkins signing makes no sense.'"



Personally, with the players we've got currently signed up my choice would be

W - Tom Johnstone
C - Ryan Atkins
C - Reece Lyne
W - Bill Tupou

Given the way we use the back line to bring the ball out that looks like 4 extremely capable players there that would all make significant yardage.

Just my opinion.

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Quote: Daddycool "Having given significantly improved deals in the last 12 months to Tom, bill, Reece, Dave, woody, and T and offerred numerous deals with minimum 20% increase to said player, I’m at a loss as to what else the board is expected to do, whilst balancing the books?'"


Thank you for your post DC.
As much as I am a Ryan Hampshire fan - First and foremost I am a Wakefield Trinity fan.
The club is more important than any one player - whoever it is - whether that be TJ, Big Dave or anyone else.
(Just to say glad they are signed up though! icon_biggrin.gifANCE: )

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League Express saying that Escare is definitely NOT coming....due to us signing Walker and "budget restrictions".

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Quote: FIL "League Express saying that Escare is definitely NOT coming....due to us signing Walker and "budget restrictions".'"


TBF nobody ever said Escare was anything but a loan signing. We have two good FB's in Walker and Jowitt, I don't think it's so much budgetary as positions now filled.

None the less thanks to Escare who certainly did his bit.

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Thanks for the insight DC and appreciate that a lot of juggling will take place when it comes to balancing the squad, books and salary cap.

No player, coach, and even chairman is bigger than the club. On thing that will always remain, is the club, its colours, badge and what it stands for.

As 3 pivotal players have gone, in Rocky, Randell and Reynolds, it would be good to see some of these pivotal positions being replaced. Neither Milky or Broughie were in the form of their lives in 2019, and what would the solutions be, if either, or both suffered lack of form, or long term injuries next year

Further onto what Tricky posted though too, regarding Brough, is that we have also brought back Atkins, and given Kirmo a role as a player/coach. It would be interesting as to how much these actually play in 2020, and then see where their value with the club lay

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Quote: Fishermanscap "Nothing, I think most of us realise that.

Frankly I’m far more interested in who’s coming in not who’s going out. Personally I support Wakefield Trinity, not Rayan Hampshire, not Dave Fifita, not Michael Carter (no offence).

I’ll be there in February or whenever it starts and I’ll be supporting the 17 players on the park wearing the RW&B and I’ll start making my own judgements from there for what they are worth.

Good luck for next season and I’ll be supporting the club as best I can.'"


I think you’ve a little something on the end of your nose Vasty.

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Quote: TheDreadnought "I think you’ve a little something on the end of your nose Vasty.'"


Wow, even for you just wow.

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We know Randall’s replacement is the third choice hooker from Salford and I suppose Pitts will be the next signing. These are the known none of which cover our half backs therefore it is the two possible unknowns I guess are of the most interest. I believe the club stated that the two additional signings will be subject to the finances so let’s hope they have included these in the budget for next season.
I did think Brough was a mistake and yes I still do looking at last seasons performances. I thought two years was not necessary because he did not have a lot of options open to
him. He will need to improve because currently we are pinning an awful lot of trust in his performances. I know Miller can play well for us because he has but the 36 year old Brough is still to do so. He was brought in to manage the game and win the close battles. The majority of our losses were by quite a large margin and I cannot think of many close games we won, Warrington at home and Castleford away being two.

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Quote: Fishermanscap "TBF nobody ever said Escare was anything but a loan signing. We have two good FB's in Walker and Jowitt, I don't think it's so much budgetary as positions now filled.

None the less thanks to Escare who certainly did his bit.'"


Yep, with you on that one, FMC, but I think some were hoping we may be able to get him to replace Rocky, with his utility value ??
Like you say, he did his bit, but now we need to look elsewhere.

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Just to throw a name out there, Jarrod Samutt has been offered to a SL club . Seems Wigan want shut, or allow him to pursue other options.

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Quote: poplar cats alive "Just to throw a name out there, Jarrod Samutt has been offered to a SL club . Seems Wigan want shut, or allow him to pursue other options.'"


Once bitten twice shy on that one I’d have thought.

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