Basically no - and you know it.

It's not what he said it's how he said it, and I'm surprised you condone that.

We are all frustrated and I have had a recent run in with TRB myself. However there is a world of difference between that and making it personal as gower did.

It's not that he's totally wrong - he isn't -but if we start fighting amongst ourselves and people like TRB walk away - and I would if I was him - then what slim chances we have disappear forever. I'm sorry if he's a mate of yours but he was utterly out of order with that post, TRB is a genuinely nice guy who gets nothing out of this except an ulcer and he didn't deserve it. He's not above questioning but at least keep it polite, surely that's fair.

Also strikes me as odd (and I don't wish to fall out with you over it) but why is the heat directed at TRB and why is it TRB's propaganda. At the end of the day he's just a fans representative, Michael Carter and Rodney Walker are far bigger players in this than TRB so why are people not venting their spleen on them?

I will however make one more plea to TRB - stop posting on this subject until you have some real news, good or bad - at the moment everything you say will be open to misinterpretation.

Now I look forward to you lambasting me next time I see you

This is the crux.

I would also add, to others FFS, stop asking what's the latest! If there's anything worth telling I'm sure it will be out within hours.

It does seem rather contrary that TRB feels compelled to give a carefully worded update that basically says nothing, whilst Michael Carter is in the media talking about making an offer on BV and stating that is his preferred option.

Surely Carter is looking at a possible personal business investment that will give him an even better return if Newmarket ever happens. He can't really lose can he?

Yeah exactly, struggling to understand the mindset of people who can't resist the urge to snipe at someone who is just letting us know that the process is still continuing, even if he can't give a full account of it. Surely it's better to have that than nothing at all.

Ok, I have not been watching this one so closely but we seem to be falling out over nothing here.

If TRB chooses to post details of what he is doing or not, it's his choice. By all means comment on it but don't start an argument about what he didn't post. I'll take that as trolling/stalking/bullying and you can assume a warning.

Equally if someone wants to post that they would like a different option to Newmarket or Belle Vue new or old, let them do it. As long as they are not accusing or unfairly criticising another poster.
To help, [i 'I don't want to go to Newmarket[/i' is fine.... '
"[iHeaven forbid you damage your position! Given that you've been in more positions than Jenna Jameson, it's hard to believe there are any positions left for you to assume...

I'm sure I speak on behalf of most when I say that as a Wakefield fan I am totally bored of every "update" you provide on the subject[/i... is not ok.

I'll follow procedure from now on. You'll get a warning and if that doesn't work, you'll take a rest from the Wakefield forum.
Let's assume what has been said is enough for now. Don't continue the petty bickering.

Hy guys, I'm fine. I'm just a fan, but somehow got embroiled in all this and I understand all of the points raised. No issue for me. In fairness I only ever give a reply when someone is asking and I don't think it would be fair to leave them hanging, even if all I confirm is ......!

You all care, as do I, so we have that much in common!

Seems an odd stance to take, am I dreaming this or did MC state in the last 12 months that staying at BV was a definite no?

He said that staying at BV under the current circumstances at that time was a no.

Since then there has been a reduction in rent, the ground put up for sale with a known asking price, the club becoming debt free...and perhaps movement in the game of chess with WMDC and Yorkcourt.

Maybe there is a potential funding stream now, that wasn't there before?

I've a feeling the stadium trust will ask YC to stump up the cash for belle vue but i don't think CM is the kind of guy to do so. He'll tell them to go and jump as this has nothing to do with the new development. At the end of the day he's a business man, he's never had any interest in Wakefield trinity and he never will. He's got what he wanted with planning for building at Newmarket and I don't see him giving away 600k from the money he makes out of it all. Hell bank the lot stick two fingers up at Wakey and laugh at the council for being so inept and not producing a watertight document that would have given Wakefield a home. I believe the council did this on purpose too and I doubt very much there'll be any loopholes with regard to the building works to the east of the city.