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| Are the results of the franchise application decision, made public.
I would imagine it wouldn't be too difficult to place them on the RFLs website, if they wanted to.
I can't believe that they would think that nobody's interested.
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| Quote J.T="J.T"Legal action would do us no favours whatsoever and would damage both the Club and the game. Like it or not this is the system that we signed up for along with the rest of the SL clubs. If we are the team that is not given a franchise then I will take great pride and pleasure in the fact that we were never relegated from SL despite all the well documented problems/troubles/tradgedies we have had along the way. A court case would taint this for me and I would hope as a Club we are bigger than that.'"
Like I said I'm no expert but if we do have a case for legal action I say take it. What damage do you think it would do taking it on the chin? It would mean a permanent existence in the Championship. sub 2000 crowds no real youth development and another lost generation of potential fans just like on the 80s. I would bet that this would have serious repercussions imo for Newmarket as well. Dreams of Wembley and one day making it to the top are over, our club should do anything to avoid this fate and keep the dream alive. No dream = a soulless game with no passion or emotion.
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| Quote Slugger McBatt="Slugger McBatt"Those category C clubs will be judged against "the strategic needs of the sport", as determined by the RFL, as well as "historical contribution and potential future performance". We fall down on the first, if we think the RFL is against us, and the strategic needs of the RFL are all about expansion.
You can't legally challenge that if the strategic needs of the sport are clear. You can shout from the rooftops all you want, but I doubt you could do anything about it. They have a discretion based on the "strategic needs of the sport". If those needs are about expansion, then they have exercised it reasonably if we lose out in favour of an expansion club.
That is not "reasonable" in my view, but what is legally "reasonable" is a decision that could be reasonably justified, within the criteria set out.
Also, the Sheffield United example is not a good one, as the FA agreed with the courts, it would seem, that West Ham had acted improperly.
You're wrong about nothing being beyond a legal challenge, because it can be dismissed pretty quickly if it is groundless. In making a civil claim, you have to set out what your civil claim is and under what ground. There would be no benefit to it if you couldn't get an injunction to stop the 2012 season going ahead, and the judge considering the injunction could rule at that point that the application is groundless. It may not end the case, but it would signal the end of it. Also, you can suffer significant cost penalties if the application is frivolous and vexatious, and I would rather the club spent the money on players.'"
Any criteria would surely have to be [iweighted[/i in some way and if there were too much emphasis placed on any specific one so as to create a 'trumps all' criteria that could be used to place a significantly inferior club into a position of being sacrosanct at another clubs/business/employers expense then that surely is grounds for action of some type.
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| Quote The Clan="The Clan"Any criteria would surely have to be [iweighted[/i in some way and if there were too much emphasis placed on any specific one so as to create a 'trumps all' criteria that could be used to place a significantly inferior club into a position of being sacrosanct at another clubs/business/employers expense then that surely is grounds for action of some type.'"
Oh aye, it will be weighted, all right, with "strategic needs of the sport" having most weight. So that's the expansion clubs in. It is then for the Category C heartland clubs to battle it out on the basis of historical contribution and anticipated future performance. Salford's historical contribution isn't as great as ours, but their stadium is well on its way, and so they're in.
So it's us and Cas. I think we may edge historical contribution, on the grounds that we haven't been relegated and not been fined for crowd misbehaviour. Equally, they have been more financially stable and are a good solid club. On the future potential, it is all down to whether the RFL will swallow another postponement of the Cas ground, or whether they will guess the probability of getting Newmarket getting passed. If they like the way Glover is running the club, with a promise to spend to the cap as part of the bid (as I understand it is), along with a good guess as to the probability of Newmarket, we might nick it yet.
"Not liking the verdict", however, has never been a legal ground for court action. And it would be costly, and hugely counter-productive in terms of PR.
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| Do you guys think you'll stay in with Widnes coming up?
A thread like this may already exist but i'm interested to hear your thoughts.
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| Yes I do, next question... 
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| Unless the RFL go back on everything they have previously said NO.
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| Have the RFL actually been quoted saying that a team will come down...?
I can't find anything anywhere and if this is correct they may have done this knowing that they may have to expand our league.
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| Quote reidy_21="reidy_21"Do you guys think you'll stay in with Widnes coming up?
A thread like this may already exist but i'm interested to hear your thoughts.'"
I've pinned you on to the end of the last thread we had on the subject, which wasn't that long ago. 8 pages of opinions for you to read on what we think about our prospects of retaining a license, and other stuff. There's plenty more from where this came from too. Just look through the old threads.
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| Quote supercat="supercat"Have the RFL actually been quoted saying that a team will come down...?
I can't find anything anywhere and if this is correct they may have done this knowing that they may have to expand our league.'"
They have said on several occasions that SL will remain at 14 teams and with Widnes coming up that means one team will go.
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| Can't see us getting a licence but you never know. Think we need to win on saturday and keep picking up wins in the league to make the decision as tough as possible. Ironically after everything our best chance of saving ourselves now is probably results on the pitch.
On a side note it seems that the chairmen of two of the leading clubs in the championship, Leigh and Featherstone have quit in the last few days. You've got to wonder what is going on down there.
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| Quote Theboyem="Theboyem"Can't see us getting a licence but you never know. Think we need to win on saturday and keep picking up wins in the league to make the decision as tough as possible. Ironically after everything our best chance of saving ourselves now is probably results on the pitch.
On a side note it seems that the chairmen of two of the leading clubs in the championship, Leigh and Featherstone have quit in the last few days. You've got to wonder what is going on down there.'"
Don't think it's results that will swing it for us, though every little helps.
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