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Quote: Trojan Horse "As the 17 that took the field played well throughout and the right result was attained. I don't think Obst should be in next week unless Jeffries isn't fit.

Same 17 for me. I don't rate Obst as an organiser he''s more of a 150% player with few good runs in him.'"


And about the 40 tackles a game.

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Saw Cookey yesterday afternoon on Prinny Ave in Hull with his lass ,looks a lot slimmer close up ! Top bloke watch him turn it on in the next few weeks .

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I disagree with people saying Cooke would be better at 13. For me he is an old fashioned 6 who if he plays should stay there to be honest. His athletisism is not what a 13 should be and neither is his work rate. To put him at 13 would deprive the team of a workhorse whose workload Cooke would not take up. When Oneill came over and we fitted him in at 13 it looked like we had too many chiefs and not enough indians on the field and we struggled and people were bemoaning the lack of a proper 13 then. I think in more recent times people said similar stuff when Latu played at loose. For me this season JD, Morro, Fergy and Johnson are all better options for wakey at loose forward. Cooke is a half back and that is it imo.

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Quote: Lupset_Airport "Big call but I could imagine if he was 100% fit and focussed he'd not be far off the Andy Farrell mould.'"

100% disagree. Cooke is the exact opposite of Andy. Cooke has never shown any signs during his career of being a grafter. Andy was a grafter with good skills as well. Cooke never will be anything like what Farrell was imo.

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Quote: Red Adair "Saw Cookey yesterday afternoon on Prinny Ave in Hull with his lass ,looks a lot slimmer close up ! Top bloke watch him turn it on in the next few weeks .'"

top bloke dont make me laugh icon_lol.gif which lass this time got form you know icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Lupset_Airport "Big call but I could imagine if he was 100% fit and focussed he'd not be far off the Andy Farrell mould.'"



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Brilliant, No really

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Listened on Yorkshire Radio today, appears they think he and JD where the target of the fans vitriol?

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Quote: Richard1 "100% disagree. Cooke is the exact opposite of Andy. Cooke has never shown any signs during his career of being a grafter. Andy was a grafter with good skills as well. Cooke never will be anything like what Farrell was imo.'"



lol short memories, Farrell was regarded as nothing but a Fielden from many quarters.

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Quote: Lupset_Airport "lol short memories, Farrell was regarded as nothing but a Fielden from many quarters.'"


Those were the people though who probably jump up and down for a below-average prop and fail to accept other teams have quality players. Andy Farrell was a great rugby league player and a hard worker, shame some just want the second quality rather than skill and ability as well.

All some want are a team of Kevin Henderson's, or so it comes across as that.

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Quote: t-r-i-n-i-t-y "Those were the people though who probably jump up and down for a below-average prop and fail to accept other teams have quality players. Andy Farrell was a great rugby league player and a hard worker, shame some just want the second quality rather than skill and ability as well.

All some want are a team of Kevin Henderson's, or so it comes across as that.'"

Watching wakey all we are going to get is a team of kh's not a team of farrell's. icon_iamwithstupid.gif

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Paul Cooke has been slated time and again both on here and on th terraces but what is he supposed to when he has only one runner to hit when he has the ball in hand. He needs at least three runners running different angles in order for him to be effective. If this were the case and he was constantly choosing the wrong options then fair do's. I'm not a massive fan of Cooke but he cant be judged properly when he hasn't got any options. What does Kear coach them to do in training??? Its basic rugby league having dummy runners inside runners support players etc but we can't even do it.

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Quote: Uptoncat "Paul Cooke has been slated time and again both on here and on th terraces but what is he supposed to when he has only one runner to hit when he has the ball in hand. He needs at least three runners running different angles in order for him to be effective. If this were the case and he was constantly choosing the wrong options then fair do's. I'm not a massive fan of Cooke but he cant be judged properly when he hasn't got any options. What does Kear coach them to do in training??? Its basic rugby league having dummy runners inside runners support players etc but we can't even do it.'"

I just can't imagine what they are or are not doing in training,it's basic under15 RL to have options from either the acting half back or first receiver.But match after match there are no signs of any and if some body does a dummy run he doesn't run the line like he's even going to take the ball so it's easy to defend against.No set moves ,no one supporting the ball carrier,slow defensive line,you could go on and on.They all know how to do it,so why isn't it happening?

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Yes he hasn't got many runners, but is he deserving of a deal? The answer is no, hes poor in defence kicking has been poor not enough for me. Its a shame as 5 year ago he was quality , not now in this day an age you dont get offered deals out of sentiment just ask JD.

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You say about no runners, but part of his role surely is to say what he wants to happen off him when the ball comes his way, ie who he wants running where, and who is he looking to feed through. Basics, sorry.

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