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| Quote Redscat="Redscat"I always recall no less a player than Alex Murphy saying that you should never come away from your opponents 25 yard area without putting points on the board. Worth bearing in mind Will.'"
Murphy played in an era of unlimited tackles and later 4 tackles where you didn't get many chances at the line.
His philosophy was perfect for that time and as a great player and coach you should listen.
Now, I'd still say it is important but if you've just had two penalties and attacking the line unless you are playing poorly you've got a decent chance of scoring and a decent chance of getting back there.
The decision isn't as simple now.
Saying all that, I do agree with Murphy, if it's an easy kick you should take it.
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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"Murphy played in an era of unlimited tackles and later 4 tackles where you didn't get many chances at the line.
His philosophy was perfect for that time and as a great player and coach you should listen.
Now, I'd still say it is important but if you've just had two penalties and attacking the line unless you are playing poorly you've got a decent chance of scoring and a decent chance of getting back there.
The decision isn't as simple now.
Saying all that, I do agree with Murphy, if it's an easy kick you should take it.'"
I take it you never went to thrumhall in was it 79-80 when there fullback kicked a drop goal every chance he was in line 3 or 4 To knock us out of the challenge cup.
Was his name wait or something like that.
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| Only two observations 1) we lacked any second phase by our inability to offload in the tackle & 2) there was definitely enough space to kick from the scrum for our wingers to chase.
The bottom line is we won not playing our best I guess it is a sign of our increased standing.
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| Think they called him johnny Blair I went to that game we were the red hot favourites to win it was the year after the Wembley final Maurice bamford was the Halifax coach they tackled us out of the game and beat us with drop goals we had Dave topliss keith smith and we're a pretty good side it was a big shock to get knocked out of the cup at Halifax .
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| Quote cheshirecat57="cheshirecat57"I take it you never went to thrumhall in was it 79-80 when there fullback kicked a drop goal every chance he was in line 3 or 4 To knock us out of the challenge cup.
Was his name wait or something like that.'"
I was there actually.
But that partly proved both out points.
They weren't capable of beating us with tries. We were the better team. They tackles and took their chances.
When we play Sts in the semi this year to get to Wembley I want to kick every chance.
When we play Oxford in the early rounds I'll be happy to run it.
I'm not disagreeing about Salford. If bite for kicking the goals. What I'm saying is that a confident team can often see a try opportunity and go for it. If back them if they did.....its a you call.
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| Quote cheshirecat57="cheshirecat57"So we would have deffenatly scored tries from those penalties given away against the said two ? Instead of taking the easy two points'"
Not saying that we would've, just think taking the two when we're camped on their line is just a way of saying the opposition "we're not that confident of scoring a try".
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| Quote Redscat="Redscat"I always recall no less a player than Alex Murphy saying that you should never come away from your opponents 25 yard area without putting points on the board. Worth bearing in mind Will.'"
Doesn't necessarily prove successful though as Hull KR found out on Thursday, when they kicked a drop goal to make it 11-10, only to lose 20-11. I rarely like us to take the two unless we have a healthy lead, because the risk of that is losing the ball at the restart and the opposition scoring from that, as opposed to turning the ball over in their ten metre line as far away from our own try line as possible.
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| I am happy to accept that at that time in the game going for the try was worth a go. I think when we got to the final stages we should have gone for a drop goal rather than the kick to the corner.
It’s all about the state and time in the game and making the correct decision at that moment.
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| My view is make the game safe and then go for your tries.
Its not the right attitude for every game, but Fridays game was an arm wrestle and we had more than one opportunity to make the game safe with a drop goal, instead of relying on a missed kick at the end to secure both points.
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| Totally agree Trinity 1315, it's called game management, it's something we need to improve on.
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| There are far more important improvements to make than wittering about one instance of running the ball instead of taking the 2, especially in a game where in the end it made no difference.
I hope we are gonna run it every time the team feels they should, that involves lots of in game evaluation by the guys on the field and you have to trust them to do that.
Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, that's the nature of the game, its simple with hindsight and the comfort of an armchair or the stand to come out with the coulda woulda shoulda's after the fact.
I'm quite happy they took the right option to run it, they thought it was right at the time the decision needed to be made, and that's good enough for me.
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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"I was there actually.
But that partly proved both out points.
They weren't capable of beating us with tries. We were the better team. They tackles and took their chances.
When we play Sts in the semi this year to get to Wembley I want to kick every chance.
When we play Oxford in the early rounds I'll be happy to run it.
I'm not disagreeing about Salford. If bite for kicking the goals. What I'm saying is that a confident team can often see a try opportunity and go for it. If back them if they did.....its a you call.'"
That would be a miracle if we did play Oxford! They no longer exist 
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