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We seem to be bringing teams down to our level.Coaches from opposition teams say it was our worse performance of year and they mention how dull the games are. AGAR has got to go.

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Starting on a positive note I thought Walshaw, Samut and Ryan all showed some good signs and Moore again put in a god shift causing Hudds problems with his offloads.

Now for the negatives whilst I appreciate the Easter period is a tough one both teams looked to have turned up to go through the motions there was no intensity or urgency from either side.

Wakefields halves consistently took the wrong options attacking down the wrong flanks and some of the basic skills ie passing from the play the ball and general line passing was shocking from Trinity.

It's tough to single out individuals but Mathers was again woeful. He offers absolutely nothing for me. He was more of a speed bump rather than a defender and give you nothing in attack. The leadership qualities I hear about seem to consist of him walking round like he is carrying carpets under his arms and shaking his head a lot.

Every game this year for Wakey should be a Cup Final with players showing the determination to stay up but I just don't see that. This lack of motivation and poor basic play has to lie at the hands of the coach.

It is very lucky Bradford and London are so dire this year.

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Quote: jonh "Starting on a positive note I thought Walshaw, Samut and Ryan all showed some good signs and Moore again put in a god shift causing Hudds problems with his offloads.

Now for the negatives whilst I appreciate the Easter period is a tough one both teams looked to have turned up to go through the motions there was no intensity or urgency from either side.

Wakefields halves consistently took the wrong options attacking down the wrong flanks and some of the basic skills ie passing from the play the ball and general line passing was shocking from Trinity.

It's tough to single out individuals but Mathers was again woeful. He offers absolutely nothing for me. He was more of a speed bump rather than a defender and give you nothing in attack. The leadership qualities I hear about seem to consist of him walking round like he is carrying carpets under his arms and shaking his head a lot.

Every game this year for Wakey should be a Cup Final with players showing the determination to stay up but I just don't see that. This lack of motivation and poor basic play has to lie at the hands of the coach.

It is very lucky Bradford and London are so dire this year.'"

Very good assessment, although i'd also like to praise Molloy for his efforts given the tiny amount of game time he has had in recent times.

I suppose everybody has to have something to hang their hat on but lets not get away from the truth, Huddersfield were dire yet were comforatably better than we were. They would have lost that game to most teams but we didn't come close, our structure was as poor as ever and the same old dumb errors littered our play. Yes the effort was better and that was good to see but that should never be in question anyway, the fact is was and it's return is a point of opitimism for some speaks volumes as to how this team has been performing for it's coach. This though was not a good performance in any way shape or form, it was a poor performance punctuated with a few decent individual efforts. But as we are back to not having a pot to pee in then sacking anyone is impossible whether we want to our not and this I feel will cost us greatly. I really don't think Agar is the man for the task in hand but i hope i am wrong as we need him to sort it out.

Agar says the two weeks training time will be vital and will enable systems to be worked on and players to work on their fitness. So by that theory we can expect much better showings against Hull & Widnes, two teams that are doing ok this year (Widnes especislly) but are not unbeatable. We need at least 2 points out of these two games to stop the slide as with Cas & Warrington to follow it will be starting to look grim otherwise, especially if Bradford get some or all of their points back. I hear they will shortly strengthening their squad as well, they are just waiting for the ok to bring in overseas players from the UK border agency. Don't be surprised to see some changes in the coaching staff there either. Anybody thinking we are safe may just get a rude awakening, it is going to be squeaky bum time yet again.

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Quote: try scorer "Eh they certainly surprised by the score, but then the brother in law who doesn't miss games came round and said Huddersfield were rubish'"


I don't think there is any doubt Hudds were under par, they simply must have been.

However credit due, we must have defended reasonably well - better Wakey teams have been thumped far more by Hudds than this lot.

Sadlyit's more than likely individual players showing some self pride than anything the clown Agar has done.

Wake up MC and smell the coffee.

By nature I tend to back the coaching staff but Mathers on the wing is the act of a man who wants the be paid off and gone - how much more obvious can he make it!

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Get Glen Morrison in now before its too late.

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Quote: Tigerade "Get Glen Morrison in now before its too late.'"


I could certainly live with that.

Lets face it, how can he possibly do a worse job than Agar is doing at the moment

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How about the Man U model - a senior player as player coach; step forward Richie Mathers!

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Quote: bren2k "How about the Man U model - a senior player as player coach; step forward Richie Mathers!'"


wow that's really pushing the boundaries of logic

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Quote: jack in the box "wow that's really pushing the boundaries of logic'"


It was somewhat tongue in cheek!

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Thank god you added that last post bren ,thought you'd lost it completly

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Quote: jack in the box "I could certainly live with that.

Lets face it, how can he possibly do a worse job than Agar is doing at the moment'"


I was talking to a group of Wakey fans in the Cats bar before the game on Friday - they were all for Morrison to come in ASAP. He would get the players playing with pride and urgency - like someone else posted "as if every game was a cup final".
Like when John Kear came in (was it 8 games left to play for - 2006 ?) it was a master-stroke.
Morrison reminds me a bit of Radford at Hull FC - not a brilliant coach by any means with not much experience but he knows how to get the best out of the players - Shaul, Rankin, Bowden, Colburn and Miller have all vastly inproved this term.

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Might get shot down for this but Paul Cooke IMO wouldn't be a bad option either, doing a decent job with Doncaster, or the Leigh RL coach whose name escapes. Plenty of decent coaches in the championship that could do a better job than Agar.

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Paul Rowley - doing very well at Leigh.

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There is something to be said for a former player taking up the reigns, especially a hardnut like Radford; McDermott, Wane and Anderson all seem to command respect from their players and don't seem to be plagued by shirking and pat-a-cake tackling. It could also be argued that they think like a player and keep things simple - as opposed to over-analysing the game, which seems to be part of our problem.

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Quote: Tigerade "I was talking to a group of Wakey fans in the Cats bar before the game on Friday - they were all for Morrison to come in ASAP. He would get the players playing with pride and urgency - like someone else posted "as if every game was a cup final".
Like when John Kear came in (was it 8 games left to play for - 2006 ?) it was a master-stroke.
Morrison reminds me a bit of Radford at Hull FC - not a brilliant coach by any means with not much experience but he knows how to get the best out of the players - Shaul, Rankin, Bowden, Colburn and Miller have all vastly inproved this term.'"

Totally agree Tigerade and I eckon Morrison has more going on than Radford...and cannot do worse tha Agar...I would back myself against him not that I claim RL genius.

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