No.

The funding package was in place. Unlocking the components was a different matter.

Lieing..........No
Economical with the truth.........most definiteley

That means yes by the way.

so everything is rosy then

why you not building

Is it a combination lock and everyone has forgotten the code?

perhaps the code is 1873?

"all elements of the funding package are in place"

I've never known any project where, if funding is in place, once planning permission is granted the funding suddenly needs 'unlocking'. It's David Brent at his best.

Come on Fully, RW was spinning and lying lots of people knew it and now even the most dedicated Cas fans must know it.

It's not simple to understand.

They have the funding package in place but they needed to sell the ground to gain the majority of the funding. Cas couldn't do jack without selling ground (something they expected to do 3 years ago incidentally). You Wakefield fans seem to fail to take into account the mitigating factors.

RW has not been lying; he's made statements that have bit him on the backside timewise because obstacles have come out that have needed to be resolved before things could move forward.

The latest timeframe he's stated is not from Cas but from Opus North and Palmer Capital - the redevelopment of the Coliseum is now being driven by Opus.

Sorry mate but if that's what he meant then he's very naive not the Wakefield fans.

It seems from what you are saying that RW had identified where some of the funding could potentially be raised but it was not in place.

I've worked on funding packages for projects as big as the 2002 Commonwealth Games and as small as toilet blocks for Unibond North football teams and I've never seen a situation like Castlefords.

What RW is saying or has said is completely at odds with what's been happening.

Good old Clan getting to the truth of things!

You believe what you want to believe.

Whether you like it or not the funding had been identified and things were in place in 2007 when OPP was given. Then the economy hit, values went down, have not really recovered since. Mitigating factors have hit us a lot and as has been said, we have a major asset. You wouldn't sell it on the cheap just because you have to. You'd sell it when you want to sell it, for as much money as possible to make the club as strong as possible.

And no, all funding had been identified not "some" as you put it. The issue lies with selling The Jungle as it was then and the Chemical licence from Hicksons. Had that been done three years ago, we wouldn't be discussing this now.

Anyway, it's pointless going over old ground, I really don't want to discuss it again paricularly as it's been done to death. The Wakefield fans are going to vilify RW, the Cas fans are going to do the opposite. RW has merely been guilty of his own self-belief based on circumstances, which have changed, obstacles have been thrown up and that has delayed things. It happens in construction, it happens in planning. Nothing ever goes smoothly.

Me & Jessie Ventura, separated at birth

Don't get me started on the JFK conspiracy

I agree it's been done to death so my last word on it for now,

Both of the quotes I posted are from late 2010 which was long after the recession hit and RW knew Wheldon Rd wasn't going to sell for nearly enough.

My beef isn't with you or Cas fans or Castleford RLFC but with the inequity of the sarcasm levelled at Trinity's new owner in comparison with RW who's track record on delivery is atrocious. His statements though largely well intentioned are naive at best and intentionally deceitful at worst, my nature is such that I hope the former is true.

Good luck to Castleford, I would genuinely love it if both stadiums get built and we see each other in a 15 team SL for the next 3 years. Then Roll on another 80 odd years of proper derby rivalry in which the City gets the upper hand over the Town .

I'll try and make it simple.

A funding package must consist of a specific amount of money to fund the project. How could you meet your (funding) payments otherwise?

You need to sell your ground.

You haven't done so yet. So how do you know you have enough money for funding?