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| Quote: Pat Bateman "Tbf I totally agree and that’s an unfair statement to Hood, he lays the platform for Kay to come on against tired defences and cause more damage.'"
I'm sure that was the idea, just hasn't happened due to injuries,
Pochings mistake or bad luck was that he didn't/couldn't bring in cover for Kay the moment he was out.
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| Quote: vastman "No you need to stop pretending he isn’t.
He’s an excellent hooker open your eyes.
I don’t know how many times this needs to be said but Kay started as a HB and was expected to be a top SL player in that position. A position that easily transfers to hooker!!!
In his podcast interview he virtually admits he took the easier option on the wing for money and wishes he hadn’t.
The question isn’t whether Kay should play at 9 but why he wasn’t doing so years ago.
Probably because to many coaches share your myopic attitude.'" yes a good its reason why folk still label players to positions when played there, most players are adaptable to many positions but obviously bias to which side best to play and size of player determines this
saying that we have played players in different positions and it showed up badly
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| Salford -the team that keeps on giving ,us yet another lifeline, now it’s up to the players to get ripped into saints this aft and show us fans that they really can play rugby and not just go through the motions .For me this will be an acid test today ,as no one including their dog gives us a cat in hells chance , these were exactly the games we could tip the form book on its head in days gone by , let’s see if these lads can muster the spirit of the old teams that have gone before and bring home a win, well I’m hoping anyway !!!!
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| Last night's result could be telling, but that's if we can take advantage. Looking after today, the next 2 for them are seemingly more winnable than ours.' Are we capable of beating Cas, Catalans or Saints? They have Hull & HKR is it? Time to stand up and be counted, as we've seen with Leeds and more so Salford, they have pulled out crucial wins in recent weeks with a number of players missing, something we seem incapable of doing, so far anyway.
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| Quote: Wildcatnomore "Last night's result could be telling, but that's if we can take advantage. Looking after today, the next 2 for them are seemingly more winnable than ours.' Are we capable of beating Cas, Catalans or Saints? They have Hull & HKR is it? Time to stand up and be counted, as we've seen with Leeds and more so Salford, they have pulled out crucial wins in recent weeks with a number of players missing, something we seem incapable of doing, so far anyway.'"
Cant see us beating Cas, who are going well at the moment, Saints, not a chance but, Catalan do have some off days and we live in hope, which is all we have right now.
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "Cant see us beating Cas, who are going well at the moment, Saints, not a chance but, Catalan do have some off days and we live in hope, which is all we have right now.'"
Its the hope that kills you.
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| Quote: vastman "No you need to stop pretending he isn’t.
He’s an excellent hooker open your eyes.
I don’t know how many times this needs to be said but Kay started as a HB and was expected to be a top SL player in that position. A position that easily transfers to hooker!!!
In his podcast interview he virtually admits he took the easier option on the wing for money and wishes he hadn’t.
The question isn’t whether Kay should play at 9 but why he wasn’t doing so years ago.
Probably because to many coaches share your myopic attitude.'"
Tell me another club in Super League where he'd get a game at hooker? It's part of the reason we're bottom of the pile.
James Graham started as a half back, playing there as 16 year old has no relevance to where they'll end up. Kay was told quite early on by Agar he didn't think he'd make in the halves.
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| Quote: imwakefieldtillidie "Tell me another club in Super League where he'd get a game at hooker? It's part of the reason we're bottom of the pile.'"
What a ridiculous proposition.
He's only started playing at hooker since he joined us so there could only be one.
Liam requested the chance to play at 9, I assume had he been elsewhere he'd have done the same. Whether he'd have got it who knows but I suspect he might have.
I also have to laugh at your other argument regarding tried and trusted hookers who have played in that role since leaving the womb. Josh Wood was one of those and that worked out well didn't it! I reckon I wouldn't have to dig very deep to find a few others if I trawled back a bit.
You judge a player on what he does on the pitch, not what his Wiki page states he is.
Fifita - started life as a centre
Lyne - A F/B
Batchelor - never had a defined position until he joined us.
Finally and most telling of all Woody was an Academy H/B, ding dong.
All just off the top of my head.
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| No one seems to have mentioned the Elephant in the room regarding not having trinity fans on the East Terrace, and the away fans on the West terrace. How are we able to call away teams for “Forward Pass”.The trinity fans at North and South ends are hardly in a position to call, but to be fair the officials we get ignore our calls anyway.
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| Quote: vastman "What a ridiculous proposition.
He's only started playing at hooker since he joined us so there could only be one.
Liam requested the chance to play at 9, I assume had he been elsewhere he'd have done the same. Whether he'd have got it who knows but I suspect he might have.
I also have to laugh at your other argument regarding tried and trusted hookers who have played in that role since leaving the womb. Josh Wood was one of those and that worked out well didn't it! I reckon I wouldn't have to dig very deep to find a few others if I trawled back a bit.
You judge a player on what he does on the pitch, not what his Wiki page states he is.
Fifita - started life as a centre
Lyne - A F/B
Batchelor - never had a defined position until he joined us.
Finally and most telling of all Woody was an Academy H/B, ding dong.
All just off the top of my head.'"
I'm judging Kay solely on what I've seen on the pitch, and I don't think he's a very good hooker. You've said he's an excellent hooker, but agree he wouldn't get a game there at any other club? He's a decent winger, when he's back that's where we need to play him.
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| Quote: PopTart "Just different to Hood. We need them both.'"
Part of the problem with Hood is that he can't do the full 80 which always means we have to have an option to rotate. Kay gave a good account of himself at 9 and has also provided cover in the backs which makes him a valuable member of the 17 when fit.
I would have liked to see Bowes get more opportunities as he seems both capable and fit enough to play longer minutes.
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| Quote: Pat Bateman "Wasn’t Kay a halfback pretty much all his academy life. He’s a very good Hooker, better than Hood for that matter, we have missed Kay immensely.'"
Thought his passing from dummy half was a bit erratic but his speed from the PTB appeared a real threat…
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