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Quote: Wildcatfan "Agent - why don't you ask via email to the clubs website on Thursday instead of nagging MC on here !!

Do you really expect him to answer every one of your issues / questions ??

We as fans aren't entitled to know everything regarding how the club runs or in this case votes.

It'll be so much better to leave them be and just concentrate on how we can help individually and in numbers.

Anything of significance will be published so cut him some slack !!'"



This is exactly why a chairman coming on here is a bad idea. Folk like Agent think they should have every question answered. That's why an arms length weekly Q & A is much more professional.
I also think there is much disrespect shown towards our chairman. He has put good money into this club. It's his way or the highway as there is no one else prepared to put money where their mouths are (sorry forgot about the mythical four investors waiting in the wings waiting for Jimmy to go). We have no right at all to keep questioning him. There is no other option so we have to roll with it and let's just be grateful he stepped in at all. And if he wants to sell players off to pay the bills that's simple economics.

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No I do not I am just making a point it's call irony. We are happy to put constant negative news in the public domain which does us no good. I personally do not think in the grand scheme of things we are not in such a deep hole compared to other clubs. They may be in denial or have chosen the route of not advertising the actual state they are in.
The reason I kept asking about how we voted was because if true it made no sense why agree to two down as opposed to one suggested by the SL clubs. I therefore just followed the current trend of being honest with the supporters that you all like unfortunately this time they decided that they would keep their own council.
I have no problem with that but if this is the new policy which I think is too late I am quite happy to accept it because it was what I was calling for since their first badly thought through press statement.

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Quote: The Devil's Advocate "Anyhow, by the sound of it Lenagan & his band of dissenters favour a fourteen team league, with one up & one down, maybe as early as next year.'"


And that's why I support their intervention - it makes much more sense than the ill-thought out nonsense that the RFL have tried to push through.

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Carl Hall of Doncaster has had one almighty public dummy spit about it tonight. Had a major pop at Lenaghan.

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Quote: bren2k "And that's why I support their intervention - it makes much more sense than the ill-thought out nonsense that the RFL have tried to push through.'"


I thought Lenagan's main issue was one of how the funds are allocated? 1 up 1 down doesn't change the funding situation for his club, and never will, as Cas can testify. It's just a smokescreen for keeping whatever money there is available in the big SL clubs, rather than feeding the rest of the family.

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www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/sport/h ... -1-6134778

I thought the game was finally coming together after all these years but it appears that greed and self interest still prevails. Saddens me to read this. Surely a greater number of strong clubs will in turn make the game as a whole stronger
www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/sport/h ... -1-6134778

I thought the game was finally coming together after all these years but it appears that greed and self interest still prevails. Saddens me to read this. Surely a greater number of strong clubs will in turn make the game as a whole stronger


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In all this group love in don't forget what Halifax had to say about us when our licence was renewed. They were happy then to join the Super League and did not care about Wakefield or it's supporters.
Let's be realistic every club regardless of what they say have an automatic self interest fall back position and would quite happily see the drawbridge to SL drawn up providing they were on the inside.
I guess the top clubs in the championship fear that they would lose money if the RFL plan did not go ahead, so they are very similar to the stance taking by some SL clubs who fear they would lose money if the RFL plan does goes ahead.

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Quote: Agent XIII "In all this group love in don't forget what Halifax had to say about us when our licence was renewed. They were happy then to join the Super League and did not care about Wakefield or it's supporters.
Let's be realistic every club regardless of what they say have an automatic self interest fall back position and would quite happily see the drawbridge to SL drawn up providing they were on the inside.
I guess the top clubs in the championship fear that they would lose money if the RFL plan did not go ahead, so they are very similar to the stance taking by some SL clubs who fear they would lose money if the RFL plan does goes ahead.'"

All the more reason to prevent Lenagan or anyone else with club connections from being part of the governing body of the sport. Do we really want to go back to the days of the Lindsay, Caisley, Hetherington self interested domination of the game? I don't think so

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In 1991 Wigan received £44K for winning the Stones Bitter Championship. Last Saturday for beating Warrington in the Superleague Grand Final Wigan received £30K.

Is it any wonder that Lenagan is unhappy with the way that game has "progressed"

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "In 1991 Wigan received £44K for winning the Stones Bitter Championship. Last Saturday for beating Warrington in the Superleague Grand Final Wigan received £30K.

Is it any wonder that Lenagan is unhappy with the way that game has "progressed"'"

Where would you lay the blame sky or the RFL or both

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Quote: snowie "Where would you lay the blame sky or the RFL or both'"


Mainly with the RFL. How did they agree to the Stobart sponsorship with no money coming into the game?
Some of the decisions, Club Call etc have been embarrassing.

People moan about Mo Lindsay, but England / GB were playing to 70 and 80,000 fans under his tenure.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Mainly with the RFL. How did they agree to the Stobart sponsorship with no money coming into the game?'"


But it was the clubs who voted for that over cash from Betfair!

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I can't remember the teams , but apparently the other week a live RU game on BT got 65,000 watching the "aviva " premiership - whereas on sky , the unsponsored game between Leeds & Warrington got 245,000 viewers !
Surely there's somebody out there that can sell the game better than it is at the moment !

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So the RFL wanted to introduce a ridiculous and complex three-way spit of 8 each, or whatever it was, and the clubs said no way, re-think, and we are being critical? That's how I see it.

On the whole, the game is in a good state on the field, in my view. The top five clubs are all genuine and potential Grand Final winners, whereas you don't have to go back too far to when it was all Saints and Bradford, when a team in third had no real chance because the top two were so much better. Whether this is because of franchising, who knows?

I can't see Wigan wanting to do anything to harm youth development, given how many of their own talent they produce. The clubs appear to be saying just hold steady, because we don't want another tinker in three years, because no one can sell season tickets on the back of the potential of watching mid-flight rugby for the last 8 games or whatever.

Two leagues of twelve. One up, one down, with a top six play-off.

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Quote: Spongebob "I can't remember the teams , but apparently the other week a live RU game on BT got 65,000 watching the "aviva " premiership - whereas on sky , the unsponsored game between Leeds & Warrington got 245,000 viewers !
Surely there's somebody out there that can sell the game better than it is at the moment !'"


Not always the numbers watching, but who those numbers are.

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