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| Quote: Wrencat "I'm not that disillusioned .'"
So your on the fence then head and heart stuff
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| I'd sort of got my head round it till reading the posts on here now I can't help wondering how they would read if you substitute the word "Agar" for the word "Kear". Still, I can't change the appointment, so good I'll back him. Welcome aboard the rollercoaster.
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| i am totally underwhelmed, but felt we needed a change and now we have one.
lets just see what next season brings.
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| Quote: vastman "Interesting comments from Hull fans, the only ones who really know.
Obviously ignore the ones like Standee who always crawl out from under there rock at these moments.
The general concensus seems to be that Agar is generally a decent Coach but not a top coach.
Well maybe we need a reality check because we are NOT a top club and Wayne Bennett with the help of the richest Arab prince couldn't turn us into one by the start of next season.
I was as guilty as anyone else of wanting an Aussie - Gentle the most obvious. Yet he wasn't going to join us, not ever and had he joined us he would have failed.
You see Gentle and others have an agenda. Cone to SL and take a top side or at least a nearly there side to a CCup or better a SL title in two years then return to Oz and become a HC. No way could he do that with us.
Even if AG lives up to his promise looking at Trinity right now we do not look a good prospect for that level of coach. You wouldn't move halfway around the world to take your chances with the worst team in SL this year and one of it's weakest clubs. I don't care how good Gentle is he couldn't turn us around in the time he would have.
Looking at it in the cold light of day Agar or similar is about right for us, steady guy for a steady club. We all want success but until we move to NM that simply won't happen because we have not got the money. Let Agar have a go, he may not win us anything but if he keeps the club running at a professional level until NM that would do. If he does better than hoped then when NM happens he gets a go. If he doesn't he makes way for better and we will get better at NM. Either way we don't lose.
There are better coaches out there than Agar but whether there are better coaches for us right now I don't know. I suspect that's what AG thought. We need to be realistic and he's hardly what I'd call a disaster.'"
Totally agree, I said this one a few different threads before it was announced. I think Agar will benefit massively from a fresh start as much as FC needed a change so I'm sure this parting of ways will suit all concerned.
I'm sure Agar will get you challenging to make the 8 next year, his recruitment (on the whole) for FC has been good so I'm sure he's already thought about possible additions for you, and I have no doubt he will be taking some FC players with him at the end of the year.
I wish him all the best and I'll be following your progress with interest next year.
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| Well come Agar, now take us up the league
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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club." Adam Pearson, FC Website 23-09-2011: |
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| Quote: Neville Bartos "Completely one-eyed post.
2 challenge cup finals and a grand final in the space of 3 years.
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| I am sure Agar will build you a decent squad and secure your future in SL..
Good Luck to all parties.
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| Quote: inside man "
you will not sing that at the end of next year
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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club." Adam Pearson, FC Website 23-09-2011: |
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| Quote: Neville Bartos "Completely one-eyed post.
Oh well, I hope Peter Gentle makes loads of rubbish recruitment choices and gets the side to perform inconsistantly then we may get to some finals again.
I would hate it if he made a really good side on paper and consistantly settled for mediocrity. Like the Great bloke/great coach that is Richard Agar.
Seriously Agar should be on the telly doing mind control tricks on the streets of Hull/Wakefield
He has never in any way shape or form proved that he is a coach of super league quality
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| Quote: Standee "you're wrong there, we were excited by the change of owner because we were confident it would lead to a change in coach, which it has.
Agar has been a spectacular failiure at Hull, coming out and saying "the race for 8th is exciting" was criminal, and phrases like "we need to raise us bar" simply made him look a bit foolish.
He's a good caoch (as has been said) and if he has the right support around him he will improve your league position in the comnig years, but remember, we paid a fee for Westerman and Obst, who have both made big contributions to us finishing anywhere near the playoffs, he has signed players on big money (O'Meley,Berrigan,Fitzgibbon,Long) and I don't think he'll have that kind of cash available at Wakefield.
His short term recruitment will give you an indication of what you can expect next season, hopefully you'll do well and start climbing the league, but the new stadium is key to you really ever being successful in SL.'"
As I alluded to, the new regime has facilitated big changes at the club, if Kath & Co were still at the helm then, so would Agar.
Whilst many have spouted their vitriol regarding Agar, not many have pointed a finger at the Board. Let’s be fair, with the support the club gets you should be up there with the Wigan’s, St’s & Warringtons of this world. The majority of Hull fans believe Agar is the single handed reason for the lack of success, only time will tell, however, player recruitment isn’t always just down to the Coach.
You’ve gone from Aussies, to Brits & probably back to another Aussie, but the limited success (by your aspirations) isn’t all down to one man.
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| Whatever we Hull fans thought of him, I think you are getting a better coach then the one who is leaving you.
Good luck to him and you next year (with the exception of 2 games )
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| I'm feeling much more optimistic about the appointment than I thought I would and the more one-eyed Hull idiots who post their daft opinions, the better I feel.
On balance, Agar was not the HC most of us hoped for, but we've appointed the best man who was available - I'm ok with that.
All that remains is for us all to buy a cheap ST - I'll be getting three this weekend - and to get behind the bloke for next season; perhaps without the Hull faithful baying for his blood and without Kath Hetherington interfering, he'll do ok for us.
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| you hear the same things about agar .competant coach.good tacktition.players coach.not a good motivator.can you tell fc fans what went wrong. he had lots of time to sort things out.hope he works out for you but will not hold my breath
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| I seem to sense that the majority of Wakefield fans on here are accepting Agar as he probably was the best candidate available to us. I have one question to the ones who are not going to buy season tickets or even watch us next season:
Who did you want as Head Coach ?
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