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Not just that, the reasons that the armed forces gave for not using the hair test as opposed to a urine test was the expense.

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Quote: Khlav Kalash "Because of the ability to shave/remove hair from the body.'"


Stuffing Imac up your nostrils can't be very pleasant, though, not to mention the sack and crack wax...

Beware the man with no eyebrows.

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Quote: RebelRebel "Stuffing Imac up your nostrils can't be very pleasant, though, not to mention the sack and crack wax...

Beware the man with no eyebrows.'"



Ouch !!!

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Not the kind of publicity Trinity or the sport needs right now, if its true or not.

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Quote: Waketrin Wild "Can anyone explain why a hair sample is not taken when drug testing ?
I am aware that Paul Cullen announced on television last night that blood testing catered for a larger number of different drug types than urine testing but from what I understand a hair sample is the best of the lot.
rlHere is some informationrl

There is a rumour of a person from another sport avoiding a test because he feared a hair sample may have been taken.'"


Funny I posted the comment below back in June of last year when the subject was Hock and still the same applies.

[i"It does'nt matter if it's a social drug or whatever. Hock is a professional sportsman and well paid to boot,which prohibits the use of drugs.
He should pay the price.

What gets me they use cocaine because it can pass through the system pretty quickly compared to other drugs so why don't the authorities use a simple hair folloicle test which can go back up to six months on drug testing.
For example all casinos in the States do a six monthly test on all of there staff by this method".[/i


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I think people should really think about what they are posting until we are ALL aware of ALL the facts. At this moment in time TN is a Wakefield player, and as so deserves our full backing until anything has been proven for SURE. I am not stupid enough to think that the RFL would suspend him, if in their opinion they didn't have a pretty 'cast iron case' but at this present time he is innocent until proven etc. From an ethical point of view, I am more worried about the example it sets to young kids such as my own (if indeed he is guilty of anything), my lad is 9yrs old and idolise's all the Wakey players, so this sest a bad example (again, if true), and the last thing anybody wants is their child thinking that drug use of any kind is acceptable. Also from a team point of view I think it will restrict JK's plans for the season which imho would have seen Latu spending a bit of time at LF, this may now not be an optoin icon_sad.gif

But again, lets back TN until all the facts are available.

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I think it's great that we have soooooooooooooooooooooo many referee's and now judges on these forums. The referee's can help Mr Cummings and the judges can help the disciplinary panel. Cos they need it. icon_mrgreen.gif icon_mrgreen.gif icon_mrgreen.gif

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Very true Outwood Vic but I do think most of the responses are directed at how we can rid or more control the drug issue in our sport rather than the person involved.
We had the SL chap last night telling us they are taking 650 tests this year as opposed to last years 628. with those figures it still becomes a bit of a lottery in catching the cheats.
I agree with Cullen we have to test everyone involved in the sport and educate from a young age. It's the only way or else we will always return to Go.

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One of the reports (BBC I think) did acknowledge that RL is relatively rigourous in its testing, being 3rd behind athletics and football in terms of tests carried out.

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Let's be first then !!

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Quote: Outwood Vic "I think people should really think about what they are posting until we are ALL aware of ALL the facts. At this moment in time TN is a Wakefield player, and as so deserves our full backing until anything has been proven for SURE. I am not stupid enough to think that the RFL would suspend him, if in their opinion they didn't have a pretty 'cast iron case' but at this present time he is innocent until proven etc. From an ethical point of view, I am more worried about the example it sets to young kids such as my own (if indeed he is guilty of anything), my lad is 9yrs old and idolise's all the Wakey players, so this sest a bad example (again, if true), and the last thing anybody wants is their child thinking that drug use of any kind is acceptable. Also from a team point of view I think it will restrict JK's plans for the season which imho would have seen Latu spending a bit of time at LF, this may now not be an optoin

yeah i hear what your saying about your young un , but his coach will put him right icon_wink.gif .

i would of preferred hock to recive a very short ban but to be ordered to serve the rest off his time scouring the wigan/leigh schools and talking about the pit falls of drug abuse.

as for our plans it completely throws kears game plan into chaos but if the test was taken back then in november and a 2nd test was then done the club should of known that this may be a possibility. this would also answer the pre season question of why we kept all the hookers.

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as for our plans it completely throws kears game plan into chaos but if the test was taken back then in november and a 2nd test was then done the club should of known that this may be a possibility. this would also answer the pre season question of why we kept all the hookers.

Very True Mut's.......hopefully plans are already in place....if needed.

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It's a bit late in the day for the RL 'community' to be attempting to take the moral high ground.

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Quote: bloomers "One of the reports (BBC I think) did acknowledge that RL is relatively rigourous in its testing, being 3rd behind athletics and football in terms of tests carried out.'"


It's amazing to think that with all the money sloshing around, there are more positive tests in rugby league rather than football.

I'm in the 'test everyone' camp on this one. Even if it means more of the Sky money is diverted that way, the best image we can promote is one where cheats are caught and punished, but then rehabilitated back into the system.

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Quote: t-r-i-n-i-t-y "It's amazing to think that with all the money sloshing around, there are more positive tests in rugby league rather than football.

I'm in the 'test everyone' camp on this one. Even if it means more of the Sky money is diverted that way, the best image we can promote is one where cheats are caught and punished, but then rehabilitated back into the system.'"


Call me cynical, but I can't help but think that elite footballers just have access to more sophisticated methods of beating the tests. Obviously, it works the other way when RL players are successfully able to argue that the reason they tested positive is because of an RFL appointed numpty giving them dodgy supplements.

I agree with what you say over being rigourous on testing. The difficulty for RL in promoting any image though is down to media control of how that image is presented. If we say we are tough on catching, punishing and rehabilitating cheats, an adverse media can easily spin that as we have a bigger problem than other sports. It's a shame that certain elements of the more friendly media, and commentators within the game like Cullen don't help in the way that they present the story.

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