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Quote: wildcat13 "Like it or not we are lumbered with RA for at least this season I would think cos of the length of his contract and the pay off involved and the fact that I reckon it is a boys club with him and Elston and can't help thinking that AG was hoodwinked into his signing as he probably knows about as much about what makes a good coach as I do about selling windows.'"



Thats not the first time i've heard that theory but you'll get shot for saying it.

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Quote: El Rey "Thats not the first time i've heard that theory but you'll get shot for saying it.'"

May well do but only saying what I think as fan looking in from the outside cos don't think RA would have got a job anywhere else certainly not SL anyway and think JE has to take the responsibility for this one.

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Quote: wildcat13 "May well do but only saying what I think as fan looking in from the outside cos don't think RA would have got a job anywhere else certainly not SL anyway and think JE has to take the responsibility for this one.'"



No other SL club would have offered Agar a job, so why did we offer him a long term deal, we could have offered him a short term prove yourself deal and he would have taken it.

Sorry to say it but Glovers been hoodwinked on this one and it will undo all the great work thats been done, not to mention all the money.

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Quote: El Rey "No other SL club would have offered Agar a job, so why did we offer him a long term deal, we could have offered him a short term prove yourself deal and he would have taken it.

Sorry to say it but Glovers been hoodwinked on this one and it will undo all the great work thats been done, not to mention all the money.'"

Agree 100% the clock must be starting to count down now will wait for the "need time to gel excuses" to start again.

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Quote: charlie63wildcat "All true. I am very puzzled as to why we set about assembling a squad before we had appointed a coach. I am equally puzzled as to why we let a coach go with years of experience and a proven track record at exactly the time we needed a strong, experienced head to guide a new squad, and replaced him with a relatively inexperienced coach with very little in the way of a track record and 15000 very relieved Hull fans smiling to see the back of him. It's very frustrating because generally speaking, I think we are going in the right direction as a club, it's just that, for the same outlay, we could have had a more balanced and effective squad and a better coach. We are struggling from some bad recruitment choices in the pack and the ill-advised appointment of Richard Agar.'"


guys, im sure you're sick of hull fans coming on here and saying told you so, but the main thing he did at hull was lower the average crowds down from over 14k to 11k in less than 3 seasons (and we are still paying for this now). you have been getting some excellent crowds recently and could be in danger of losing a lot of these hard won fans if you carry on like this

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Agar this week - "The players need to look at themselves in the Mirror."

It's proper Matrix down at Belle Vue! How many incarnations of the same coach do we need?

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Quote: charlie63wildcat "All true. I am very puzzled as to why we set about assembling a squad before we had appointed a coach. I am equally puzzled as to why we let a coach go with years of experience and a proven track record at exactly the time we needed a strong, experienced head to guide a new squad, and replaced him with a relatively inexperienced coach with very little in the way of a track record and 15000 very relieved Hull fans smiling to see the back of him. It's very frustrating because generally speaking, I think we are going in the right direction as a club, it's just that, for the same outlay, we could have had a more balanced and effective squad and a better coach. We are struggling from some bad recruitment choices in the pack and the ill-advised appointment of Richard Agar.'"


I think and a lot on here thought at the time we had to start buying, we were already behind the eight ball because we had been planning to move down a division and at that time a lot of the talent had been snapped up or signed longer deals where they were. I'm sure the club thought they were doing the right thing at the time, by the time Agar came who would of had to choose from on the market. I remember when he did get appointed there was a list doing the rounds, with all OOC players and the choice was poor.

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Quote: wildcat13 "Agree 100% the clock must be starting to count down now will wait for the "need time to gel excuses" to start again.'"


I was one of those people that said a new side with 18 new players would need time to get used to each other, imo if you don't think a team needs time to gel with that many changes, you know naff all about team sports but like I said last week, that time has been and gone and we have gone backwards even from the Widnes game.

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eusa_think.gif hull were gash under agar even though their budget was a hell alot more than ours. No wakey fan wanted him here, don't get me wrong I didn't expect Craig bellamy but I would have had Daryl Powell over agar any day of the week.

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You know i wasn't a fan of Agar getting the job but i was willing to give him a go. Well quite frankly we are crap and getting worse the longer it goes on. Lets just say i wouldn't be unhappy if he got the bullet soon. He's got til this time next week, by which time will be bottom of the table and out of the cup. Then he can go.

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TBF although we may have been poor and lacking desire, the late withdrawal of Kirmond and injuries to Lauitiiti and Mathers meant any recovery was even less likely.

No point in whingeing about the coach, we're stuck with him for the foreseeable future. He knows the last 2 performances were unacceptable and he has to take responsibility for them and do something about it.

The complainers could at least wait till next week when we could quite possibly be bottom of the league an out of the cup.

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like it or not we are stuck with Agar and JE unless Mr Glover pays them both up this situation could only happen at Wakefield

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He knows it was unacceptable? It was an improvement according to this....

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Yes Richard it was an improvement. Thats because the london game was so bad. Stop blaming injuries, every club gets them and to be honest we've done ok with them so far. The problem is we have under performing players and a coach who has no idea what to do about it. We look clueless, end of.

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Quote: coco the fullback "TBF although we may have been poor and lacking desire, the late withdrawal of Kirmond and injuries to Lauitiiti and Mathers meant any recovery was even less likely.

No point in whingeing about the coach, we're stuck with him for the foreseeable future. He knows the last 2 performances were unacceptable and he has to take responsibility for them and do something about it.

The complainers could at least wait till next week when we could quite possibly be bottom of the league an out of the cup.'"


Yep, lets wait untill we hit the iceberg before we complain, thats just the ticket.

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Why play Mathers if he wasn't well? Why not play Motu Tony instead. Agar is really starting to pi55 me off with his turd excuses. Maybe because Cas have a load of young lads from cas that actually care for this derby unlike us having a bunch of aussies who dont give a crap.

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