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| Thanks, will look forward to some good news hopefully
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| I agree with the Vastman.
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| Quote: Ossett Cat "interesting artice ion rugby League world where JK was commenting a potential England team of the future and he put Scott Grix at 6.
Its an intersting poser for JK as last year IMO the half back pairing were never really resolved. Wouldn't be surprised to see Grix and Brough at 6 and 7. Drew has been great at hooker with Obst and Latu vying for the hooker role off the bench. Possible to put Latu at 13.'"
I definitely see Grix as a future S/O however Martin appears such a natural at the moment that I wouldn't change a thing. Grix simply hasn't got the craft at the moment that Martin has. I realise that to gain this he needs the time to develop but time is on his side. Personally I haven't seen such creativity as Martin offers for a long time and I'm in no hurry to lose it. Sorry Grixy but you will have to wait.
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| How has Blaymire been doing so far this year, i would assume with a fully fit team Blaymire and Grix could well be in direct competition with each other for the number 1 shirt.
I personally have always liked Latu in the backrow, normally at loose, can cause defences all kinds of trouble, including his own to be fair at times.
Top of my head i would go with.
13.Latu
9.Drew
7.Brough
6.Matin/Grix (agree with Vastman from what i have seen Martin has been pretty impressive thus far)
1.Blaymire/Grix
Bench. Obst (cracking player)
Trinity do have strength in depth in the halves, the only concern is that shifting them around too much throughout the season could well disrupt the team, the sooner you get them all back and a settled combination on the field the better it will be, even if that combination does have the odd back game, although the teptation would be to change it, i think unless the performances were consistantly poor it would be dangerous to change.
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| if obst is fit he should start every game imo. Latu on the bench.
Probably obst/brough, with Drew at hooker, Latu to come on.
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| Quote: jonh "How has Blaymire been doing so far this year, i would assume with a fully fit team Blaymire and Grix could well be in direct competition with each other for the number 1 shirt.
I personally have always liked Latu in the backrow, normally at loose, can cause defences all kinds of trouble, including his own to be fair at times.
Top of my head i would go with.
13.Latu
9.Drew
7.Brough
6.Matin/Grix (agree with Vastman from what i have seen Martin has been pretty impressive thus far)
1.Blaymire/Grix
Bench. Obst (cracking player)
Trinity do have strength in depth in the halves, the only concern is that shifting them around too much throughout the season could well disrupt the team, the sooner you get them all back and a settled combination on the field the better it will be, even if that combination does have the odd back game, although the teptation would be to change it, i think unless the performances were consistantly poor it would be dangerous to change.'"
IMHO Peterson is Blaymire competition at F/B. Grix for me isn't a F/B but only for the crucial reason that he can't as yet take the high/bouncing ball with confidence. Blaymire has his fumble but is far more assured. Both need to improve there cover tackling to compete with the best in the game.
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| Quote: pocket 4's "if obst is fit he should start every game imo. Latu on the bench.
Probably obst/brough, with Drew at hooker, Latu to come on.'"
For me Obst isn't a playmaker more a game breaker. He has to be in the 17 but could cover a multitude of role, I think he's have a go at propping given the chance. It's more a case of who is first choice hooker Drew or Latu and at the moment Latu better see if he can plat 13
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| Latu is the gamebreaker - not Obst. Even Drew is more of a gamebreaker than Obst.
Obst improves our defence and is why i would start with him; and he can do it for 80 minutes.
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| Quote: pocket 4's "Latu is the gamebreaker - not Obst. Even Drew is more of a gamebreaker than Obst.
Obst improves our defence and is why i would start with him; and he can do it for 80 minutes.'"
I think you miss my point in that he isn't a playmaker IMO like Drew or Brough are. I'm Obst biggest fan but that part of his game is limited. He is a game breaker in that he can open up a defence when nothing is on but it's usually an individual effort. This effectively can break a game wide open.
What he can't do and Drew in particular can is change the whole patter of the game by changing his and the teams tactics. Obst has never been able to do that, what he does is tackle all day, makes valuable yards, and attacks the line effectively at close range. What he rarely does is find the killer ball that releases anyone else, not a complaint just the way he plays.
I realise there are different ideas as to what a game breaker is and it can all get a bit pedantic but in the context of his thread I think the point I'm making is valid. Ost gives us options which can be gemebreaking.
Finally Latu is a matchwinner IMO and hopefully he will do it for us one day.
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| watch the difference Obst made in the first 15 minutes vs Warrington before he went off.
I know we ended up convincing winners after that, but we were much more cohesive and threatening on the opponent's line in the time he was on the field and directing play.
Sam can be the playmaker, it is just that the roles we have employed him in during his time here (hooker usually) have limited his opportunities to showcase what he can do.
Benching Obst is a waste though IMO
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| If Martins fit and happy to carry on then i'd leave him at 6, i think he's earned that right.
Obst would start every game for me.
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| I am surprised we did not approach Leeds or Saints for one of their young lads; could have been a good option.
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| Quote: Adam Knighton's Step "I am surprised we did not approach Leeds or Saints for one of their young lads; could have been a good option.'"
Maybe - but for my money it needs to be a player who if it works out might join us like Halley. Say what you like about Leeds they are not daft and unlike Bradford are not dumb enough to let one of those go IMHO.
In other words it would be to short term to be of benefit and could be quite disruptive if you consider they may be on more than some of our first teamers and will have no desire to join us long term. Off season is different you may be able to get a discarded one with a bit of potential and some time to work on them.
Saints are the same but with the added issue of distance . I know it worked with Gleeson but it might not work every time.
Truth is after years of neglect we are getting our Academy in shape but it takes time. Just shows how bad it's been that the most obvious step up also playing in the worst hit position is also injured (Southernwood).
We just have to ride it out.
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