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| Quote: Willzay "Their new prop has his sights on playing for England. Well done McNamara you clown, now in a couple of years time we'll have an international team full of overpaid, average auzzies/kiwis who can't get into their international teams. Well done.
Having seen Achurch play several times on Premier Sports Leeds are welcome to him. Prefers playing 2nd row but has been used as a bench prop by Panthers. I`d class him as average, 38 carries in 9 games doesn`t impress me at all. England class, not in a milllion years so probably a shoe-in for McNamara.
Also heard a whisper from an Aussie contact that on his recent trip down under McNamara was tapping up Feleti Mateo to declare himself available for England, at least he`s got an English mother.
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| With the news that Leeds have signed a big young Aussie on a 4 year deal this morning, this may help Kyle with his decision making and strengthen our negotiating power a little bit.With a genuine feel good factor around the club for the first time in years, and lot's of positive steps forward let's hope the lad makes the right choice and decides to stay.The futures bright,the futures RED,WHITE and BLUE.
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| Quote: bensbag "With the news that Leeds have signed a big young Aussie on a 4 year deal this morning, this may help Kyle with his decision making and strengthen our negotiating power a little bit.With a genuine feel good factor around the club for the first time in years, and lot's of positive steps forward let's hope the lad makes the right choice and decides to stay.The futures bright,the futures RED,WHITE and BLUE.'"
Know your enemy I say. As a Trin fan I'm well aware of the mindset that exists at Sheadingly. My opinion for what it's worth is that Amor doesn't tick the boxes, especially for the fans and sponsors. Leeds have always had delusions of grandeur but now after umpteen titles it's genuine expectation.
They like their home grown which Amor actually isn't. They like their forwards to appear more dynamic than Amor probably appears (to them). They love their big signings from the other top clubs no matter how clapped out they are, which Amor isn't. Above all they just adore a big Aussie, and will sign an Aussie prop almost as an instinct which is the only explanation foe signing Sam Backo!
I may be wrong and they may have changed but past experience tells me that he just isn't a Leeds standard player as they would pompously say. Amor will drop from their collective consciousness pretty quickly I hope. I mean it's nearly two weeks since they last saw him.
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| Told you so.
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| Quote: semitone "Having seen Achurch play several times on Premier Sports Leeds are welcome to him. Prefers playing 2nd row but has been used as a bench prop by Panthers. I`d class him as average, 38 carries in 9 games doesn`t impress me at all. England class, not in a milllion years so probably a shoe-in for McNamara.
Also heard a whisper from an Aussie contact that on his recent trip down under McNamara was tapping up Feleti Mateo to declare himself available for England, at least he`s got an English mother.'"
He was but Mateo has declared for Aus, played for city vs country this year. NZ also wanted him to play for them
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| Quote: bensbag "With the news that Leeds have signed a big young Aussie on a 4 year deal this morning, this may help Kyle with his decision making and strengthen our negotiating power a little bit.With a genuine feel good factor around the club for the first time in years, and lot's of positive steps forward let's hope the lad makes the right choice and decides to stay.The futures bright,the futures RED,WHITE and BLUE.'"
As his preferred position is second row he's likely to be a replacement for the Cas-bound Weller Hauraki.
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| It will be a mistake if he goes back to the Rhinos we have given him a chance and with our coaching etc he has flourished he owes it to us to sign. He himself says he feels at home here never in his career he has felt at home. I blame ourselves partly because it was a stupid deal in the first place why we just didn't sign him permenantly and none of this you can have him back after a year non sense was so dumb Amor was the 6th choice prop at Leeds probably worse we could have signed him surely with no questions !. Amor is now at a side that is going places new ground, hes made some good mates here, Kyle can lead us into battle at Newmarket. Or will Kyle go to sheddingly be a bit part player and be a shadow I personally think it will be a mistake if he goes back, it would be a great shame.
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| Quote: newgroundb4cas "I blame ourselves partly because it was a stupid deal in the first place why we just didn't sign him permenantly and none of this you can have him back after a year non sense was so dumb.'"
That might well be down to how Leeds played it rather than us. It could well have been that or nothing. Leeds wanted first dibs. Remember they had first dibs on Iestyn Harris when he left them. Smart move by Leeds if you ask me.
If we didn't agree to it then we probably wouldn't have got Amor at all this year.
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| Quote: newgroundb4cas "It will be a mistake if he goes back to the Rhinos we have given him a chance and with our coaching etc he has flourished he owes it to us to sign. He himself says he feels at home here never in his career he has felt at home. I blame ourselves partly because it was a stupid deal in the first place why we just didn't sign him permenantly and none of this you can have him back after a year non sense was so dumb Amor was the 6th choice prop at Leeds probably worse we could have signed him surely with no questions !. Amor is now at a side that is going places new ground, hes made some good mates here, Kyle can lead us into battle at Newmarket. Or will Kyle go to sheddingly be a bit part player and be a shadow I personally think it will be a mistake if he goes back, it would be a great shame.'"
Agree again
Sadly Amor will not be the first or the last to have his head turned and career ruined by big promises, big money and a greedy agent.
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| Quote: vastman "Agree again
Aye, just ask Jay Pits ??
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| Quote: wildshot "That might well be down to how Leeds played it rather than us. It could well have been that or nothing. Leeds wanted first dibs. Remember they had first dibs on Iestyn Harris when he left them. Smart move by Leeds if you ask me.
If we didn't agree to it then we probably wouldn't have got Amor at all this year.'"
Agree, we weren't in the driving seat on this one, he's a Leeds player and they call the shots and if we hadn't of come up with this idea we wouldn't have had him at all, so the club deserve a pat on the back for it. It's been another year at the club that has hopefully persuaded him where his immediate future lies, without it he may have gone to a number of other clubs.
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| Quote: vastman "Agree again
its not always down to money
from what I was told Jay was a keen rhinos fans and that in its self has a sway to play for the club you support as a kid
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| Quote: wildshot "That might well be down to how Leeds played it rather than us. It could well have been that or nothing.'"
I expect you're right - we were in desperate straits at the time the deal was done and Mr Hetherington being the shrewd operator he is, saw an opportunity to put his club in a win/win situation - nothing wrong with that, but I can't imagine for a minute that WTW were in the driving seat when it came to this particular negotiation.
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| Quote: vastman "Know your enemy I say. As a Trin fan I'm well aware of the mindset that exists at Sheadingly. My opinion for what it's worth is that Amor doesn't tick the boxes, especially for the fans and sponsors. Leeds have always had delusions of grandeur but now after umpteen titles it's genuine expectation.
They like their home grown which Amor actually isn't. They like their forwards to appear more dynamic than Amor probably appears (to them). They love their big signings from the other top clubs no matter how clapped out they are, which Amor isn't. Above all they just adore a big Aussie, and will sign an Aussie prop almost as an instinct which is the only explanation foe signing Sam Backo!
I may be wrong and they may have changed but past experience tells me that he just isn't a Leeds standard player as they would pompously say. Amor will drop from their collective consciousness pretty quickly I hope. I mean it's nearly two weeks since they last saw him.
Talk about chips on shoulders! Must be a real effort to stand up carrying such a big weight around.
The above nonsense is riddled with contradiction. Home grown or Aussie import...which is it? At least we have the talent and the resources to make that choice!
Sam Backo was 27 when he signed for Leeds...hardly a 'clapped out' age for a prop, and that was over TWENTY years ago.
Since then Leeds have signed only two big Aussie props...Kylie Leuluai and Ben Cross, only one of whom was 'clapped out'.
As for Amor 'ticking the boxes', on the basis of what I've seen of Wakey this season he ticks most for me.
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| Quote: Chief Stinkwort "Talk about chips on shoulders! Must be a real effort to stand up carrying such a big weight around.
The above nonsense is riddled with contradiction. Home grown or Aussie import...which is it? At least we have the talent and the resources to make that choice!
Sam Backo was 27 when he signed for Leeds...hardly a 'clapped out' age for a prop, and that was over TWENTY years ago.
Since then Leeds have signed only two big Aussie props...Kylie Leuluai and Ben Cross, only one of whom was 'clapped out'.
As for Amor 'ticking the boxes', on the basis of what I've seen of Wakey this season he ticks most for me.'"
What chip, look in the mirror mate
If you were not so defensive you'd have read a back handed compliment in my post. This is a Wakefield forum so you wouldn't expect my post to be sugar coated or spare Leeds of a few digs would you - you over sensitive ninny. I'm actually saying that Amor simply isn't IMHO a Leeds type signing, I'm saying the expectation at Leeds is far higher than with us and Amor won't fit the bill IMO. Nothing to do with Amors ability as a player but his ability to shine in an environment like Leeds. That is why Leeds tend to go for named players or players who have come through the system, no contradiction or nonsense there. Amor is neither, I believe he was duel reg and then signed on a contract as a punt, which IMHO has been not been a huge success for Leeds.
It's a judgement call by the Leeds club and the player but on past experience I think and hope they will let Amor go. Now don't fall off that high horse will you!
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