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Quote: FickleFingerOfFate "It doesn't matter who you have in your back line, if your forwards are getting beaten.
Webster said earlier in the week that they couldn't do full training sessions, so to me that means he's struggling to get 17 players together who are somewhere like fit.'"

But the players who are fit are not fit. For a SL side we are unfit

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Quote: newgroundb4wakey "Chris Chester's assistant Willie Poching is getting a lot of credit for HKR's improvement. Do you think he may still have a soft spot for you and could he be persuaded to come and give it a shot.
Personally I think its the lack of depth thats costing you now that the injuries are piling up (and there are a lot). You did fine in the first 2 games but then the number of injuries just kept going up and up.'"

The statement about Poching just goes to show how the game can change.
After Rovers got beaten by us, some Rovers fans were baying for Poching's head as he was supposed to be their defensive coach.
Now all that has been forgotten, it's just a shame we have gone the other way.

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Quote: M62 J30 TRINITY "But the players who are fit are not fit. For a SL side we are unfit'"

Who's fit and who's carrying knocks?

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Quote: FickleFingerOfFate "It doesn't matter who you have in your back line, if your forwards are getting beaten.
Webster said earlier in the week that they couldn't do full training sessions, so to me that means he's struggling to get 17 players together who are somewhere like fit.'"

Well if not fit don't play them play the 19s can't be any worse five players missing from cas game that's all Webster is a poor coach

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Quote: newgroundb4wakey "Chris Chester's assistant Willie Poching is getting a lot of credit for HKR's improvement. Do you think he may still have a soft spot for you and could he be persuaded to come and give it a shot.
Personally I think its the lack of depth thats costing you now that the injuries are piling up (and there are a lot). You did fine in the first 2 games but then the number of injuries just kept going up and up.'"


Yes we won our first two games but only played well for twenty mins in each

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Quote: FickleFingerOfFate "Who's fit and who's carrying knocks?'"

They all look unfit compared to all other SL sides does this contribute to all the injuries we seem to pick up?

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Quote: M62 J30 TRINITY "They all look unfit compared to all other SL sides does this contribute to all the injuries we seem to pick up?'"

We have never looked fit while clawson been at the club

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That was up there with as bad as i've seen from this club. No quality, no fight, no idea. The players on paper are better than we saw tonight but ultimately they are a bottom two side at best. We are missing a few guys maybe but that team out there is better that the garbage on show tonight. And yes we seem to be way off the pace. Fast losing the faith i'm afraid.

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Webster has to accept some of the flak,its his squad that he assembled and coaches,ultimately the buck stops with him.
One thing is certain,something is fundamentally wrong when a team is getting turned over so easily on a regular basis.
Im afraid that from what ive seen so far this season,his methods are Agaresque,weak defensive structures,little attacking structures and mind boggling postional selections.
I have no doubt he will pull a rabbit out of the hat at some point,but i fear it will be more down to good luck than good coaching.
I take on board we have had some injuries that have stretched the squad to its limits,but to be conceding points with such alarming ease is simply not acceptable.

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That side should not be conceding 7 plus tries every single game, injuries or not. The opposition don't even have to try hard to score, we're gifting them 2 or 3 a game. We can't hold on to the ball, we can't tackle, we can't create, the side has gone to pot. We looked half decent at the end of last season and at the start of this, what the hell has happened? Time to earn your corn Webster, it's not looking good and I'm a glass half full type of guy.

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Are our many injuries to do with our seemingly lack of conditioning ?

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I feel it is right to point out that while Webster must take some blame ( it is his squad after all ) that injuries are to the point where he doesn't even have his regular reserve and fringe first team players such as molloy and anakin. He is having to relay on the loan market and players of below a super league standard in order to complete his pack. And once a pack is beaten attack becomes nullified

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Catalan fullback Stanislas Robin was released by Wakefield's reserve team a few years ago. Nice payback for him.

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Quote: Theboyem "That was up there with as bad as i've seen from this club. No quality, no fight, no idea. The players on paper are better than we saw tonight but ultimately they are a bottom two side at best. We are missing a few guys maybe but that team out there is better that the garbage on show tonight. And yes we seem to be way off the pace. Fast losing the faith i'm afraid.'"


Completely agree. Witnessed some dross over the years, but rarely have I left with 20 to go.
I'm not buying this injury line. That side was good enough, it was just lacking in ideas and enthusiasm. This is Rugby League, players play injured all the time!
It's been said we are missing forwards to lay the platform but I'm not having that either. I lost count of the number of sets we had in there 20 without doing jack! We couldn't force a repeat set. All in all p*** poor!

Mcshane and D Smith aside, the rest looked about as enthusiastic and happy to be there as me! Miller I don't get, Craig Hall needs to play centre or 6, T Smith needs to get back to organising them and Danny K needs to try and get back to somewhere near the form of 2 years ago, as for the last season and a bit he has been a shadow of the player he was.

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Quote: Theboyem "That was up there with as bad as i've seen from this club. No quality, no fight, no idea. The players on paper are better than we saw tonight but ultimately they are a bottom two side at best. We are missing a few guys maybe but that team out there is better that the garbage on show tonight. And yes we seem to be way off the pace. Fast losing the faith i'm afraid.'"


Completely agree. Witnessed some dross over the years, but rarely have I left with 20 to go.
I'm not buying this injury line. That side was good enough, it was just lacking in ideas and enthusiasm. This is Rugby League, players play injured all the time!
It's been said we are missing forwards to lay the platform but I'm not having that either. I lost count of the number of sets we had in there 20 without doing jack! We couldn't force a repeat set. All in all p*** poor!

Mcshane and D Smith aside, the rest looked about as enthusiastic and happy to be there as me! Miller I don't get, Craig Hall needs to play centre or 6, T Smith needs to get back to organising them and Danny K needs to try and get back to somewhere near the form of 2 years ago, as for the last season and a bit he has been a shadow of the player he was.

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