We definitely didn't get the rub of the green, but we also definitely didn't deserve to win, let alone score points.

We struggled to look like a threat anywhere on the field, we need to turn this around quickly if we are going to give cas a game!

Was disappointed that I had not gone down but then they kicked off and I was so glad that I hadn't. Feel for those who made the effort.

It was ba ba - nothing more I can say on the subject.

Don't understand that comment from you tbh yes there's no arguing they were very poor tonight, no getting away from it. I take it from your comment you're
from the school of thought that a brand new side didn't need time to gel. I'm not saying it now but it was defo true when people were moaning the second and third games in.

I left when it got to 28-0 as I couldn't stand watching such a useless performance any longer -and I'm not someone who normally does "the Wigan walk".

The only positives from today are the cheap tickets through Group On & the good performance from the reserves. In fact, I think the reserves playing a second match straight away would have given a better showing than the "best" 17 that were out there today.

Right now I don't know if I can be be bothered making the 400-mile round trip for Friday's match.

We could have played all night and not scored. Lets just hope its a bad day at the office because a performance like that on friday will not be tolerated.

He new thing is waring thin. We showed over the last two weeks that isn't an issue now. We were just inept.

why on earth is Steve southern the captain?hes done nothing will do even less and has no interest.

Agree. I have defended the team in the past and advocated continuity because the performances were reasonable and progress appeared to being made on a week by week basis. Tonights result and performance is a massive step backwards and there simply has to be changes for next weeks game to show those that played tonight that is not acceptable and to give the likes of Ellis and Walshaw the chance to prove they deserve a regular spot.

Neither Mellars or Sykes are very convincing at Centre. If, Collis is fit, I would play him and Kirmond in the Centres. I'd have Ellis starting at Hooker and interchanging with Kyle Wood, with Aiton at loose forward. Lautiti on the bench and to play in 2 20 min spells.

The backs should be spending hours in training learning how to defend kicks, whilst the half backs spend hours learning how to put in decent attacking kicks.


Agars

No direction, no passion and no balls, All this b--------s about gelling is cheap talk, start playing basic rugby league is that too much to ask from a side of proffesional players?????

Beat Cas and put Leeds out of the cup and this game won't matter.

On sky they were saying that gelling is no longer an excuse this far into the season, both teams were relatively new so it should have been a closer game.

Still don't think we are quite there, but at game 8 i dont think we should be nilled.

Have you ever visited the planet earth slug

Have you seen Agars record against Leeds? Or in local derbies.

1. First and foremost London were solid. Didn't make many mistakes and when they did they were mainly in our 30. They also played to their strengths and our weaknesses. Fair play to them.

2. We didn't have a great start with the decisions. I thought the first try was dodgy and the penalty for the 2 points ridiculous. We were immediately on the back foot.

3. The try from Sarginson(?) came from a really lucky break but was also a terrific finish. Before we know it we were looking at a 14 point deficit. We then had the second really poor penalty given against Raleigh, as poor a decision as you will see and they are piggy backed into our half and score again.

4. We then seemed to lose all composure and for the rest of the game can only be described as gash, no getting away from it.

5. For me it is one of those performances where nothing went right and we should forget about it. I just hope it focusses our mind for the Ginners

Its easy to say we were poor, which we were. But everything that could go wrong, did go wrong.
The loss of injured players, strange ref decisions, bad bounces, bad discipline you name it, it was all on the mix.
Most of it is out of our control, but what hurt the most was the manner of our loss.
We looked second best all night, and we're outperformed and worse, out enthused in a game that was a huge stepping stone for us.
The measure of this team and this season rests on how we get up for Friday, have we got the stomach for it, because we didnt tonight!