FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Wakefield Trinity > Championship
190 posts in 14 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman4148
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
125_1389554653.gif
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_125.gif



Hearing from more and more folk that whatever happens we won't be relegated. I can't see us surviving personally and we don't deserve to, but stranger things have happened in Rugby League.

RankPostsTeam
International Star5260
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 201411 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
Black Backgrounds/Sam%20the%20Eagle.gif
:Black Backgrounds/Sam%20the%20Eagle.gif



Quote: Trojan Horse "Probably boycott the club and not assist financially and show less support. These fans are clueless and the reality is that they are the problem and part of the reason why the club is where it is.

Like anything else in life they blame others and not themselves.

For those who turned up, supported the club financially and in spirit and believed in the team. Well done, it’s been a tough year and you did your best.'"


Who was it that regularly complained that it was the supporters fault we could not spend the maximum cap.

RankPostsTeam
Junior Player168No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 20231 year
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Silence is golden mopsey!!!

RankPostsTeam
International Star5260
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 201411 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
Black Backgrounds/Sam%20the%20Eagle.gif
:Black Backgrounds/Sam%20the%20Eagle.gif



I hope supporters don’t believe that our redeveloped ground will guarantee our place in SL. It will not, ok the east stand will look good but the changes to the original plan have limited its impact when up against other clubs both in the SL and the championship. The west stand is an eyesore and unless it is developed it will go against us on the ratings.

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain1538
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 20178 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Dec 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
disney/00033.gif
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.:disney/00033.gif



Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "I hope supporters don’t believe that our redeveloped ground will guarantee our place in SL. It will not, ok the east stand will look good but the changes to the original plan have limited its impact when up against other clubs both in the SL and the championship. The west stand is an eyesore and unless it is developed it will go against us on the ratings.'"

About half of the championship clubs have a stadium which on the face of it are better than ours is currently, and of the super league clubs there's probably only Cas which is worse than ours, there's also some better grounds than ours in C1.

Realistically looking at it, we've probably got around the 18-20th best stadium even with the new stand

RankPostsTeam
Moderator21029
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
41119.jpg
A dog is not considered a good dog because he is a good barker. A man is not considered a good man because he is a good talker - Buddha:41119.jpg

Moderator


Quote: Egg Banjo "About half of the championship clubs have a stadium which on the face of it are better than ours is currently, and of the super league clubs there's probably only Cas which is worse than ours, there's also some better grounds than ours in C1.

Realistically looking at it, we've probably got around the 18-20th best stadium even with the new stand'"


I can't remember how many times I've had to explain this.
It is part of the criteria. It won't saves us on it's own but if we didn't have it we'd be even further away.
And it potentially makes money which many of those stadiums do not.

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain1538
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 20178 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Dec 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
disney/00033.gif
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.:disney/00033.gif



Quote: PopTart "I can't remember how many times I've had to explain this.
It is part of the criteria. It won't saves us on it's own but if we didn't have it we'd be even further away.
And it potentially makes money which many of those stadiums do not.'"


You're right, it is part of the criteria, but given about 20 clubs will score higher than us on it, it's probably not a big swing factor. Too many fans who are up the backside of the board seem to think we've developed the greatest stadium in the world

What would save us though is investment in the team to secure a higher league position, and investment in the fans so that they increase the fanbase both online and in person - but the club don't seem interested in doing that, or if they are, have spectacularly failed to do so and have instead left a divided and dissolutioned fanbase which is getting smaller and smaller

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4130No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Apr 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
34595_1297504122.jpg
[color=#BF0000:1qi6asc8]WAKEFIELD FANS ARE BORN, NOT MANUFACTURED.WE DO NOT CHOOSE, WE ARE CHOSEN. THOSE WHO UNDERSTAND NEED NO EXPLANATION. THOSE WHO DONT, DONT MATTER.[/color:1qi6asc8] [color=#0000FF:1qi6asc8]I AM THE SEEKER OF TRUTH AND JUSTICE[/color:1qi6asc8]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_34595.jpg



Quote: Egg Banjo "You're right, it is part of the criteria, but given about 20 clubs will score higher than us on it, it's probably not a big swing factor. Too many fans who are up the backside of the board seem to think we've developed the greatest stadium in the world

What would save us though is investment in the team to secure a higher league position, and investment in the fans so that they increase the fanbase both online and in person - but the club don't seem interested in doing that, or if they are, have spectacularly failed to do so and have instead left a divided and dissolutioned fanbase which is getting smaller and smaller'"
you are arguing with people with agendas

RankPostsTeam
Junior Player168No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 20231 year
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



That's tickled me mopsey. In reality we all have agendas. Some people act on their agenda so at least are doing something rightly or wrongly. We know your agenda but seem unable to answer one simple question, you know the datebut obviously evading answering.

RankPostsTeam
Moderator21029
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
41119.jpg
A dog is not considered a good dog because he is a good barker. A man is not considered a good man because he is a good talker - Buddha:41119.jpg

Moderator


Quote: Egg Banjo "You're right, it is part of the criteria, but given about 20 clubs will score higher than us on it, it's probably not a big swing factor. Too many fans who are up the backside of the board seem to think we've developed the greatest stadium in the world

What would save us though is investment in the team to secure a higher league position, and investment in the fans so that they increase the fanbase both online and in person - but the club don't seem interested in doing that, or if they are, have spectacularly failed to do so and have instead left a divided and dissolutioned fanbase which is getting smaller and smaller'"


Investment in fans?

RankPostsTeam
Moderator21029
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
41119.jpg
A dog is not considered a good dog because he is a good barker. A man is not considered a good man because he is a good talker - Buddha:41119.jpg

Moderator


Quote: Egg Banjo "You're right, it is part of the criteria, but given about 20 clubs will score higher than us on it, it's probably not a big swing factor. Too many fans who are up the backside of the board seem to think we've developed the greatest stadium in the world

What would save us though is investment in the team to secure a higher league position, and investment in the fans so that they increase the fanbase both online and in person - but the club don't seem interested in doing that, or if they are, have spectacularly failed to do so and have instead left a divided and dissolutioned fanbase which is getting smaller and smaller'"


Because of the way the score is worked out, we would have to finish lower than 4th to impact the points in the grading for performance as its done over a 3 year average.
The stadium would impact immediately and the floodlights and screen alone would be equivalent to us finishing 3 places higher ( consistently over 3 years)
The new stand adds to the score for stadium 3, finances for income outside funding and balance sheet which would be 3 of the 5 finance points and I guess attendance as we were having to reduce attendance but playing in Championship will reduce that again....however, if we stay above average 3k crowd we don't lose points compared to what we had in SL because of the grouping.

So like it or not, that stand and stadium redevelopment is more valuable than staying in Super League this year.
Of course it would have been nice to do both.

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain2121No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 20187 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
76816_1582258482.jpeg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76816.jpeg



Quote: Egg Banjo "You're right, it is part of the criteria, but given about 20 clubs will score higher than us on it, it's probably not a big swing factor. Too many fans who are up the backside of the board seem to think we've developed the greatest stadium in the world

What would save us though is investment in the team to secure a higher league position, and investment in the fans so that they increase the fanbase both online and in person - but the club don't seem interested in doing that, or if they are, have spectacularly failed to do so and have instead left a divided and dissolutioned fanbase which is getting smaller and smaller'"

By the statement ( up the backside ) do you means fans who turn out every week home and away or those keyboard warriors that sit at home and spew vile nonsense on a regular basis but don’t go to games . I’ll hold my hand up I’m in the former camp , I backed my club , not happy with lots of things but what choice did we have , don’t go and let the club fold . Hopefully now things will change for the good both on and off the field

RankPostsTeam
International Star5260
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 201411 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
Black Backgrounds/Sam%20the%20Eagle.gif
:Black Backgrounds/Sam%20the%20Eagle.gif



What about the catchment area weighting because next season we will be of the three, outside SL.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4130No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Apr 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
34595_1297504122.jpg
[color=#BF0000:1qi6asc8]WAKEFIELD FANS ARE BORN, NOT MANUFACTURED.WE DO NOT CHOOSE, WE ARE CHOSEN. THOSE WHO UNDERSTAND NEED NO EXPLANATION. THOSE WHO DONT, DONT MATTER.[/color:1qi6asc8] [color=#0000FF:1qi6asc8]I AM THE SEEKER OF TRUTH AND JUSTICE[/color:1qi6asc8]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_34595.jpg



Quote: Trin e ti "That's tickled me mopsey. In reality we all have agendas. Some people act on their agenda so at least are doing something rightly or wrongly. We know your agenda but seem unable to answer one simple question, you know the datebut obviously evading answering.'"
I don't after evade but I certainly don't dance to anyone's tunes especially grovellers to this regime. When there's a clear cut off between the old regime and the new it will be announced. A clean break and a line drawn under this lot and and a brighter future.

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain1538
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 20178 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Dec 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
disney/00033.gif
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.:disney/00033.gif



Quote: PopTart "Investment in fans?'"

Yes, investment in fans. Building the fanbase is the first criteria under IMG but the club are going backwards in this area with less and less fans turning up to the games or engaging with them on social media. It takes investment from the club to build this up both in terms of better marketing, better social media management, to providing a better fan environment at the games. Some of that is done by investing in the team so that people will enjoy their visit, and some of it is building on the wider match day experience. Just selling beer and bovril from a shed like in the 1970's doesn't cut it any more.

190 posts in 14 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing
190 posts in 14 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


2.96630859375:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
6m
How many games will we win
Willzay
30
33m
Salford placed in special measures
Dannyboywt1
96
56m
Salford
karetaker
29
59m
Film game
karetaker
5690
Recent
Its all gone a bit quiet
Victor
25
Recent
Transfer Talk V5
ArthurClues
505
Recent
Spirit of the Rhinos
MrPotatoHead
1
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Its all gone a bit quiet
Victor
25
1m
Spirit of the Rhinos
MrPotatoHead
1
1m
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
2m
Salford
karetaker
29
2m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40749
2m
Film game
karetaker
5690
3m
2025 merchandise
BarnsleyGull
17
3m
Salford placed in special measures
Dannyboywt1
96
4m
Super League
Dr Dreadnoug
24
4m
Shopping list for 2025
DSJ1983
5585
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Spirit of the Rhinos
MrPotatoHead
1
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Willzay
30
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
karetaker
29
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
FIL
50
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Big lads mat
22
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
962
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
593
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1328
England's Women Demolish The W..
1156
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1384
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1180
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1437
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1978
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2185
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2431
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1995
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2235
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2704
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2129
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2202
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M 1,713 80,15514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
 Sun 2nd Mar 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R1
04:30
Penrith
v
Cronulla
06:30
Canberra
v
NZ Warriors
 Thu 6th Mar 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R1
09:00
Sydney
v
Brisbane
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Hull FC
v
Leigh
 Fri 7th Mar 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R1
07:00
Wests
v
Newcastle
09:00
Dolphins
v
Souths
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Castleford
v
Salford
20:00
St.Helens
v
Hull KR
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
6m
How many games will we win
Willzay
30
33m
Salford placed in special measures
Dannyboywt1
96
56m
Salford
karetaker
29
59m
Film game
karetaker
5690
Recent
Its all gone a bit quiet
Victor
25
Recent
Transfer Talk V5
ArthurClues
505
Recent
Spirit of the Rhinos
MrPotatoHead
1
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Its all gone a bit quiet
Victor
25
1m
Spirit of the Rhinos
MrPotatoHead
1
1m
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
2m
Salford
karetaker
29
2m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40749
2m
Film game
karetaker
5690
3m
2025 merchandise
BarnsleyGull
17
3m
Salford placed in special measures
Dannyboywt1
96
4m
Super League
Dr Dreadnoug
24
4m
Shopping list for 2025
DSJ1983
5585
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Spirit of the Rhinos
MrPotatoHead
1
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Willzay
30
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
karetaker
29
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
FIL
50
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Big lads mat
22
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
962
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
593
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1328
England's Women Demolish The W..
1156
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1384
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1180
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1437
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1978
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2185
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2431
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1995
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2235
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2704
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2129
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2202


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!