Lol I accept that, but it does kind of emphasise my inventiveness point.

The only delay to restart I can think of that took a while was when Ligi Sao was down, who subsequently left the field before play restarted for a head assessment other than that there wasn't much and the clock was in play for the majority of the drop outs we took.

In regards to the arm waving I was surprised to see Wakey adopt that tactic as its not something I've associated with your trinity teams before but it seemed to be at just about every tackle two or 3 players were waving their arms trying to get a call from Griffiths regardless.

It was never going to be a classic game in those wet & cold conditions and being the first serious gameand having seen the two 17's before the game I was expecting a much more torrid time from a Hull view but I thought we for once did enough to see out the game.

Think this remark is spot on Hull did look sharper with ball in hand for 20 mins in second half ,and a lot of the first half with ball in hand. Think at Wakefield we have got use to our halves not creating ,and depending on individuals scoring or making a break to keep us in the game e.g. T J yesterday . Hope it is something we can change under W P .Throwing hands up in the air and constantly begging for penalties is some thing that as grown into our game and is done by all clubs .Not nice to see

Miller has some good points but yesterday when he picked up that loose ball on half way and turned sideways instead of heading for the gap it just about summed up his limitations. Then his knock on at 2nd tackle on our final set ended our involvement and had the majority of Wakefield fans heading for the exits. Many fans are now just waiting in purgatory for the end of Millers time. We need a replacement ready and hopefully still be in Super League.

talking about taking it on the chin maybe Conner should be told not to chelp back at the ref, when he was given the red card he didn't want to go showing no respect for the refs decision
there was once a time when players accepted it whether it was right or wrong seems not any more

Yeah that was really frustrating! He should have just pinned his ears back. Even if he got caught he would have bought an extra 20/30m and with a quick PTB we might have scored/got a penalty much like our first try.

There were plenty of head scratchers though. A few poor passes from hooker. Crowther no look passing to nobody in the first half when we had them on the rack. Fifita’s pass to touch. We just really struggle with set plays and ball movement and the wet/muddy pitches don’t suit our style. We are better on drier turf when we can run off the back of Fifita.

To be quite honest I think we would be better moving away from set plays and just focus on off the cuff plays. I think splitting our halves and the ball to the FB out the back just doesn’t work for us as we can’t seem to get the ball out fast enough. If we are going to persist with the ball out of the back I think we would be better using a half at first receiver passing to the other half back because it just doesn’t seem to get out quick enough when our LF/PR are passing it.

I think we should try to utilise our second phase a lot more. Countless times Fifita and Battye got their arm free with no support. I think half of this is due to the pivot players setting up for the next shift and ball out of the back. I think it stops the FB pushing up through the middle. A shame really as we scored our best try last year when two forwards got their arm free with Jowitt/Lino pushing up through the middle. Offloads can be a high risk play but at least you can kill the ball when men are supporting through the middle. It doesn’t always work but with our lack of ability in set plays I think we should play to our strengths. Most of our tries are coming from broken play and I think that’s what we should try and engineer through offloads/support play.

To end on a positive I thought our forwards did really well yesterday and really battled well. Battye found his front alot and Fifita was his barnstorming self. I thought Arona and Batch got through alot of work. I’m still not overly convinced with Hood as there were quite a few loose passes but that may come with time. I thought Gaskell played well and looked threatening when playing direct. A real shame he went off! No lack of effort yesterday and I came away feeling entertained but frustrated.

No argument from me on that Snowie.

Might seem a bit churlish... given that I chose to live 13000 miles away from my home town footy team and in a different time and media zone...

But I haven’t been able to find highlights of the game (that are not blocked) anywhere... usually they’re available a few hours after the game .. Toulouse/ Hudds was ... but not Trinity Hull...

They were on Sky Sports same evening.

Sky sports show different sports in different countries .Was once in Spain ,Wakefield were on Sky .Put sky on to watch match, Spain Sky was showing Bull fighting

The video was blocked in Australia... RFL YouTube have all the weekend games from championship and cup.. Superleague YouTube have all games except the trinity game

All the live sky games are shown on fox sports here... but little else from anything except NRL sponsored games

you can get 2minutes of highlights on the Hull fc website free just click on hull fc live

Thanks feel better now

Ps dome nice tries from both sides ... but that was awful marker defence for hulls second try!!