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| Quote: Fordy "Not sure if I think the defence has got better but it is clear that the attack has suffered compared to last season. We look devoid of ideas in the opposition 20 and our last tackle options are shocking. How many grubbers have we seen this season? Not many! Other teams seem to use that to build pressure/force a GLDO, we seem to want to run the ball every time and invariably we end up dying with it and handing it over. A large percentage of the scores in games come from building the pressure until the opposition cracks. We're just not doing that often enough.
The other big thing for me is the amount of times we give the ball to a forward who is standing still, instead of on the burst. If Pauli Pauli took the ball while running at pace near the line would you expect him to be stopped????'"
Unfortunately I suspect he'd knock on
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| Fordy wrote:
Not sure if I think the defence has got better but it is clear that the attack has suffered compared to last season. We look devoid of ideas in the opposition 20 and our last tackle options are shocking. How many grubbers have we seen this season? Not many! Other teams seem to use that to build pressure/force a GLDO, we seem to want to run the ball every time and invariably we end up dying with it and handing it over. A large percentage of the scores in games come from building the pressure until the opposition cracks. We're just not doing that often enough.
The other big thing for me is the amount of times we give the ball to a forward who is standing still, instead of on the burst. If Pauli Pauli took the ball while running at pace near the line would you expect him to be stopped????
I agree Fordy But as professionals they should know that or Chester should be training them that way but as we can see he's not. If the players are not taking on board what the coach is saying it's not Chester's fault but he's the coach he should be handling this. We as fans can see it
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| Last tackle plays and general kicks have been crap for years, not just this. There was a thread a while back which asked what would take us to the next step, better pivots was my answer and better pivots get you the better options on the last, intelligent kicks and creative play.
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| Quote: Khlav Kalash "Last tackle plays and general kicks have been crap for years, not just this. There was a thread a while back which asked what would take us to the next step, better pivots was my answer and better pivots get you the better options on the last, intelligent kicks and creative play.'"
Agree, more so our long kicking game which I cant remember the last time we had a half with a decent long kicking game... Maybe Broughy? Miller, Wood and Finn do okay close to the line and we have scored some great tries from kicks but again this season that seems to have dwindled.
I have mentioned this before, in Johnstone and BJB we have two wingers that are exceptional in the air, why have we stopped kicking to them!!?
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| Quote: PopTart "Sheffield were only underdogs in the final because they were playing Wigan. They were no mugs. They'd been in the semi the previous year I think and that was when you had to play all rounds.
Of course it would be nice to win on the anniversary of that game but let's not kid ourselves. That team was a double championship winning team. We have a lot of potential in our team but we are not the 68 team.
Kick start means playing better......at the moment we need to improve to make sure of 8 whether you expect it or not.'"
yes like we like were no mugs as well, sheffield had the right mind set to take on who ever came there way it was a fact the JK played each game to target where he could and proved he could do it, the 68 side should of had the double and you can't compare it to the modern game anyway, but we are so close to challenge any one this was an opportunity missed that could of got the fans wanting to get back to the terraces.
Steady has got it right about the mentality of our fans,
I'm sick of hearing the groans on the sidelines and they know nothing else, while we continue to be negative it will just turn newbies away.
one thing I do know it doesn't come from the top
we need to get this club noticed
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| Quote: steadygetyerboots-on "I genuinely can’t believe some of the comments regarding cup & potential league finishes on here recently. I get that most of you have supported Wakey through thin & thinner, but you don’t half talk yourselves down!
I’d say that your squad is at the least the same as last year & is arguably stronger; so why shouldn’t you be confident & try to improve? All this worrying about other teams & “under par year last year for bigger clubs” talk is what keeps clubs like ours (Cas) in their place.
I said on here earlier in the year that the biggest change required at wakey was the mindset of the fans. You have to start thinking like a successful club & believing it. You have loads to be positive about & positivity encourages more positivity which in time will lead to more spectators coming. You could argue that this is what JK brought to the table; belief. The players believed it & look what happened last year.
All this talk of being where you should be based on spend & fans etc is a cop out in my opinion. It’s as if some people are worried to be positive in case they are shot down later; so what if you get it wrong? It’s better to be optimistic & back the club rather than throwing the towel in cos the terrace’s are crumbling or you get a bit wet at games!
I apologise if it’s a bit ranty, but if you keep settling for 6-8 guess where you’ll always end up.'" the old saying a pint pot half full or half empty
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| LIKE I SAID LAST WEEK GET THE USELESS CHESTER OUT
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| Clueless....Not sure they could play much worse. In attack it is sideways, too slow and laboured....defence not aggressive enough and too many gaps outwide
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| Quote: asmadasa "Clueless....Not sure they could play much worse. In attack it is sideways, too slow and laboured....defence not aggressive enough and too many gaps outwide
Have to agree we look really slow or lack urgency and our ruck speed (or lack of it) is shocking.
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| so at half time chester not unhappy with how where playing...really clueless
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| He didn't say that.
He said we were better in the end of end of second half and we needed to be faster round the ruck which was exactly right.
There is a lot wrong with the team but it isn't Chester.
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| Chester...'there is no panic' .....after losing 8 out of the last 10..the losses cant go on indefinitely without pressure mounting....
If it's not the team's ability then it has to be a poor attitude and tactics to blame.
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| Sorry but if we are to play Hampshire it has to be in place of Finn who was shocking AGAIN today . Jowitt has to play fullback .
I’m glad Chester isn’t panicking because I AM .
Where was Tom today ?
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| Quote: PopTart "He didn't say that.
He said we were better in the end of end of second half and we needed to be faster round the ruck which was exactly right.
There is a lot wrong with the team but it isn't Chester.'"
He said he wasn't ultatmatley unhappy with how we where playing..we where in first half not much better in second 9 losers i 11 now and hes laughing saying not panicking...really he is a joke kear made him him and MM out for me.stick with him enjoy bottom 4
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| Quote: cocker "Sorry but if we are to play Hampshire it has to be in place of Finn who was shocking AGAIN today . Jowitt has to play fullback .
I’m glad Chester isn’t panicking because I AM .
Where was Tom today ?'"
Not playing Tom was silly today. On form he’s by far the best attacking threat we have.
Time to swap from the old guard and move forwards and let some new pivots cement themselves and learn to play together.
Why the hell haven’t we had fifita and Pauli on together all year? They caused no end of problem for Hudds in that second half. That needs to continue.
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