Salford seemed to make far more ground in their sets of six than we did, particularly in the second half when we stood off them at each play the ball and waited for them , thus giving Salford at least ten metres each time. I witnessed this a lot last season too. I Still think we need a Topliss type creative half back who can make jinxing runs in the middle of the field and put players away.
In my humble opinion I also think we need to take advantage of going for goal when we get penalties in kickable positions. It could well have back-fired on us last night.

Tbf expection this too much teams are treating us as tough game not a walk over

Sorry but going for goal backfired on us at Hull away last year and the Cas home game.

So we would have deffenatly scored tries from those penalties given away against the said two ? Instead of taking the easy two points

Me and my dad thought the same.

I always recall no less a player than Alex Murphy saying that you should never come away from your opponents 25 yard area without putting points on the board. Worth bearing in mind Will.

Murphy played in an era of unlimited tackles and later 4 tackles where you didn't get many chances at the line.
His philosophy was perfect for that time and as a great player and coach you should listen.

Now, I'd still say it is important but if you've just had two penalties and attacking the line unless you are playing poorly you've got a decent chance of scoring and a decent chance of getting back there.

The decision isn't as simple now.

Saying all that, I do agree with Murphy, if it's an easy kick you should take it.

I take it you never went to thrumhall in was it 79-80 when there fullback kicked a drop goal every chance he was in line 3 or 4 To knock us out of the challenge cup.
Was his name wait or something like that.

Only two observations 1) we lacked any second phase by our inability to offload in the tackle & 2) there was definitely enough space to kick from the scrum for our wingers to chase.
The bottom line is we won not playing our best I guess it is a sign of our increased standing.

Think they called him johnny Blair I went to that game we were the red hot favourites to win it was the year after the Wembley final Maurice bamford was the Halifax coach they tackled us out of the game and beat us with drop goals we had Dave topliss keith smith and we're a pretty good side it was a big shock to get knocked out of the cup at Halifax .

I was there actually.
But that partly proved both out points.

They weren't capable of beating us with tries. We were the better team. They tackles and took their chances.
When we play Sts in the semi this year to get to Wembley I want to kick every chance.
When we play Oxford in the early rounds I'll be happy to run it.

I'm not disagreeing about Salford. If bite for kicking the goals. What I'm saying is that a confident team can often see a try opportunity and go for it. If back them if they did.....its a you call.

Not saying that we would've, just think taking the two when we're camped on their line is just a way of saying the opposition "we're not that confident of scoring a try".

Doesn't necessarily prove successful though as Hull KR found out on Thursday, when they kicked a drop goal to make it 11-10, only to lose 20-11. I rarely like us to take the two unless we have a healthy lead, because the risk of that is losing the ball at the restart and the opposition scoring from that, as opposed to turning the ball over in their ten metre line as far away from our own try line as possible.

I am happy to accept that at that time in the game going for the try was worth a go. I think when we got to the final stages we should have gone for a drop goal rather than the kick to the corner.
It’s all about the state and time in the game and making the correct decision at that moment.

My view is make the game safe and then go for your tries.
Its not the right attitude for every game, but Fridays game was an arm wrestle and we had more than one opportunity to make the game safe with a drop goal, instead of relying on a missed kick at the end to secure both points.